Topic: Enamelled pieces for ID.... French, Bohemian? Help!!

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I apologize for the image quality but I am helping out a friend and the pics were in a crowded basement. Both pieces are around 7 inches tall or so and are mold blown with ground rims. The quality of the enamel work appears to me to be quite good and it is very thick. The flowers are actually a very nice pink....  not shown well in the pics.....

I have seen this work before but can not place it for sure. I generally do not do much with enamel work.  Legras, Mont Joye, Bohemian....    got me...

TIA for any help and opinions.....

Craig

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are the rims polished or just left ground?
I'm not too keen on the enamelling, it might just be the photos but there doesn't seem to be much detail on the leaves and flowers... they look a a little 'flat'.
I would have said Bohemian but I've also seen some vases recently that were iridescent enamelled and were vintage Russian.  I didn't think they were the highest quality.

I'll probably be totally wrong and they'll turn out to be something exciting but they don't make me think of a particular maker at all.
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The rims are polished and then gilt. The flowers are actually detailed and quite 3 dimensional for enameling. I had to use a flash to even get the pics so these are not really great images and not indicative of the quality....  was hoping someone would recognize the decor of the enamel more than anything....  the glass is also quite a bit higher quality than the thin green I generally associate with mass production cheap enamel work. 

But like I said..... enamel work is not my thing.... I own 1 piece.... I display it with the enamel work to the back because the glass is nice...  :-) 

Certainly not meant to insult anyone that does collect it....     Just not me....

Craig

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   I have lots of it... love it.
ok, so it's the flash that has deadened the enamel work then.

mmm, I'll have a look round and come back if anything looks familiar.
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I know you do....  hence my comment meant to get me out of any potential hot water....   

There are actually several shades of pink in the flowers that bring them to life....  and the flash killed them....

Thanks
Craig

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this seller seems to have a  few similar all attributed to Legras... but I don't know if that is the case, just pointing out the similarities.
Did yours look like this without flash?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-Antique-French-Legras-Green-Satin-Hand-Painted-Enamel-IRIS-Art-Glass-Vase-/140948064172?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item20d128c7ac
I'll keep looking.
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I do not trust that sellers attributions at all. She is the wife of the "pair" on CW. We had an "exchange" with the husband the other day.  That pedestal in the pic is her trademark.....   

Actually, if she says Legras, I would be inclined to move them near the bottom of the list, if not completely off....    :-) 

Craig

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 do your vases look quite similar to those then? without the flash - the colour of the iridescent green and the enamelling I mean?
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Yes, but the vases I am trying to ID are higher quality enamel than those. For example, in some of those images the leaves look to have a pronounced outline with a more shallow fill in the center. The leaves on the ones I took pics of are quite a bit thicker enamel work all over....  but the overall decor looks similar....  they are likely impossible to actually ID....
 

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http://www.glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?album=692&pos=0&PHPSESSID=526475f18362438f7ed7baae555920bc
Poschinger was the only other maker I could think of but to be honest I'm not sure the colour or the rim finish would make me look at Poschinger, Legras or Mont Joye first... but as I say, my knowledge is seriously limited.  The decor is not the kind I collect.
Sorry not to be of more help.
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