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Author Topic: Blue opaline glass basket with lozenge mark  (Read 648 times)

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Offline brain_11

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Blue opaline glass basket with lozenge mark
« on: May 07, 2013, 11:09:35 PM »
I recently got this little (~10cm) glass basket in silver plated frame. I thought it is English pressed glass, but the seller insisted that it is rather French. Can someone enlighten me?
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Re: Blue opaline glass basket with lozenge mark
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2013, 01:18:38 AM »
Hello

The registration date was November 22, 1880 and the registrant was Pembrook & Dingley.  They were silverplate manufacturers in Birmingham.  So we are left with several questions.  What exactly was registered - the silver plate frame or the glass insert, or both?  Who made the glass insert?

Is the frame marked anywhere?

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Re: Blue opaline glass basket with lozenge mark
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2013, 06:44:29 AM »
Thanks Sid, very interesting. Indeed the puzzling question is who made the glass insert? Pembrook & Dingley wasn't glass a manufacturer, why did they register the glass then?  The silver is not marked anywhere.

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Re: Blue opaline glass basket with lozenge mark
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2013, 09:10:52 AM »
We don't know they registered the glass
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What exactly was registered - the silver plate frame or the glass insert, or both?

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Re: Blue opaline glass basket with lozenge mark
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2013, 09:58:09 AM »
The National Archives online registration summary gives the reference for the registration on 22 November 1880 as BT 43/63/358659 , and the registration description as:

Registered design number: 358659.
Proprietor: Pembrook and Dingley.
Address: Hall Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire.
Subject: For sugar [bowl] and marmalades.
Class 3: glass

I find it interesting that the glass bowl appears to be of some quality, with a polished pontil mark and nicely-engraved registration lozenge.

By the way, Pembrook & Dingley also registered the following design on August 31 1883:
Reference: BT 43/63/403109
Registered design number: 403109.
Proprietor: Pembrook and Dingley.
Address: Hall Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire.
Subject: For biscuit boxes, sugar [bowl], marmalades and inkstands.
Class 3: glass

I will add both the registrations to the Registered Design Lookup requests list in the hope of getting more details of the registration representation in due course.

http://www.silvercollection.it/SILVERPLATEHALLMARKSP.html gives Pembrook and Dingley’s electroplate mark as ( P D over & ) inside a trefoil, and their working dates as 1887-1898. Thesame source attributes the same mark as their sponsor’s mark on hallmarked silverware.

http://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Makers/Birmingham-P.html , however, attributes the same sponsor’s mark to Pembrook & Dickins of Hall St., Birmingham.

   



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