Topic: Russian (?) cup

[brain_11]

Although I can't read the mark on the bottom, my hunch is that the cup I have is Russian from the 19th century. It is very precisely enamelled. Can anyone decipher the maker's mark?

Attila

[flying free]

I can't - the mark doesn't look very Russian on sight, but it's a good hunch I think based on the teardrop type enamel design around the base.
If you go on the Hermitage Museum collection website they have a vast collection of glass online and you may be able to match it.
It's a lovely piece of glass
m

[flying free]

I'm not sure how old your beaker is but in Newman's Dictionary of Glass it lists the following under 18th century Glasshouses in Russia:
Mal'tsev, Bachmetov, and Minter and also St Petersburg Imperial Glass Factory and the factory of H.V. Lomonosov.  It says 'By 1812 there were over 140 private glasshouses, but only a few made fine-quality glassware;'
It says from 1850 to 1870 there were many more and the older ones expanded.
m

[flying free]

I've not found anything similar at all having gone through quite a few books. The only tiniest similarity I did find, which is probably not worth it at all was in Newman's Dictionary of glass page 225 there is a vase top row left that has the same colour yellowy orange dots on it in the centre of flowers. It has a vaguely similar feel in the design around the rim.  But probably a long shot.  The glass is attributed as Bohemian, French and German with no designation per item.
m

[brain_11]

Many thanks for the effort, so it might be not Russian? Anyway, it is a nice glass.

Attila

[flying free]

No, I didn't say it might not be Russian
Newman has a page of glass designated as Bohemian French and German.  Given there is no id for any of the pieces, I wonder if that is a best guess as country of make otherwise why not definitely describe each from the country they are from?  On the other hand he might have known exactly where they were from and gathered them together as a group shot, from the V&A for example.  I don't know, I've not searched the V&A collection - well I have but only in relation to my plate and I can't remember what was there.  I do recall seeing that bright pink on white glass though at some point/somewhere.  Maybe French was my other thought but that wording on the base is strange - cop?  could it be russian for Cup?  I have no idea.

There are a few interesting bits of enamelling on your beaker. 
1) The orange dot which does appear to be the very similar to those on the vase in Newman but then many countries might have used this particular orangey yellow enamel
2) the little black 'arrows' around the flowers which is quite a distinctive device - I couldn't find any other pieces with that on
3) The bright pink 'teardrops' - the shape reminds me of teardrops on my Russian plate, the colour , I don't know? might that be English?  it's a very bright pink, quite distinctive
4) that bright red band of enamel - that's a superb red.

It might take a bit more looking lol   it could be a while - but definitely worth hunting for I would say.
m

[flying free]

Attila is it at all possible to reload some photos please that are completely in focus, so when you enlarge them you can see the detail of the enamelling clearly and also what the glass on the base looks like please?
Thanks
m

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http://www.ebay.de/itm/2-Biedermeier-Milchglas-Becher-handbemalt-Glas-Glaeser-Paar-/121108998910?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D7596828802295582730%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D3%26sd%3D310647682147%26&nma=true&si=W0QLHC6M8t7e3lWMYOmDERZ2mNA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

not very helpful as they don't have a definite id - they were selling as Biedermeier Milchglas bechers.
They seem to be a very similar design to yours.  I have no idea whether they are Biedermeier period or not for definite.

It's possible yours is German, Bohemian maybe.  ~But the red band on yours is peculiarly red, different to anything I could find searching Bohemian glass.
Hopefully someone will come along who can help more on the age of yours as well as location
Please could we have clearer photos and also a size?
Many thanks
m

[brain_11]

Nice find on Ebay, it looks very similar to mine. The size is 9cm in height and I will upload close ups when I return from abroad.
Attila

[Ivo]

"Biedermeier" in German is often loosely used, and has a much wider stylistic scope than the mere 1812-1850 period. 

I would think of Lobmeyr for the sheer quality of enameling, and the monogram which looks like a period sig from last quarter 19th ct.  Of course it could be Russian as you suspect - in which case the Imperial glassworks are the most likely contender.