Topic: Vase with internal bubbles possibly Monart or other British...?

[Greg.]

Hi All,
Looking for some further clarification on this bulbous shaped lilac vase with numerous internal bubbles, with clear casing.

Fire polished rim and ground concave polished pontil mark to the base. The shape reminds me of Monart, however, the base treatment is not typical of the majority of Monart i have encountered.

Fairly large example, weighing 1950 grams and around 8.5 inches tall and with a rim diameter of 4 inches.

All thoughts welcome, thanks in advance.
Greg

[Gary]

Hi Greg not Monart, sorry can't be of anymore help, the base is all wrong for Monart and it is not a shape I recognise as Monart.
Gary

[Greg.]

Thanks for taking a look Gary and ruling out Monart, I'll take a look into a few other British contenders.

[flying free]

Walsh Pompeian range did do a purple, but I've not been able to find your shape (and I wasn't sure about whether the bubbles were right on yours and I think they might have had rough pontil marks).  Have you checked the base very carefully for a mark?  The Walsh mark is incredibly difficult to spot and very small.

See here for detailed information from Bernard
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,167.msg599.html#msg599


Stevens and Williams did a bubbly glass - link here, and I thought of them for some reason, when seeing your vase
http://www.millersantiquesguide.com/items/103178/a-1930s-stevens-williams-royal-/

but I don't know enough about either of their ranges to make a judgement.  Hopefully will give you something to search on though.
m

[Lustrousstone]

The bubbles look too big for Pompeian, though the pontil mark is fine, but the purple doesn't look purple enough

[Greg.]

Thanks M and Christine for taking a look and for the above links, much appreciated. This certainly appears to be a difficult subject area to research.

The bubbles are tricky to capture accurately, however, I think picture 2 above, is the closest representation. The bubbles' sizes and shapes do vary, but as a generalisation tend to be tall and thin. The vase also has a very slight textured feel from the bubbles inside the vase.

Thanks for the comment on the bubble size for Walsh Pompeian, after looking through quite a few examples of Pompeian I was struggling to find an accurate match for the bubble size/shape.  I did also have a good look over the base for any indication of a Walsh mark, however, can't see one,  although I do appreciate that the absence of a Walsh mark may not also be conclusive.

I'll keep digging and have also have a look into S&W and of course any additional thoughts/insights are most welcome.

Thanks,
Greg

[chopin-liszt]

It's very, very similar to a great charger which was on here some years ago, which I remember was finally attributed to S&W.

[Greg.]

Thanks for taking a look Sue, I'll see what a search into S&W throws up.

 

[Greg.]

Still looking at examples of S&W although no exact match at present.

I did come across another example, which looks the same as mine, which was posted on the WF site a number of years ago, although no definitive conclusion was reached:

http://whitefriars.com/isit_contents.php?ID=1582

I wonder if Nazeing might be a possible candidate or at least worth ruling out...? I have seen a couple of Nazeing examples with similar internal bubbles, although no exact match in terms of shape to date:

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18902/lot/28/

[flying free]

The colour doesn't gather around the bubbles in the same way I'd have thought for Nazeing but I could be wrong.
Can we have a clear side on picture of the lower part of the vase so the casing can be seen clearly at the bottom and how deep it is please?  Is the vase very heavy?

It reminds me of this Stevens and Williams Rainbow vase but with higher neck on yours.  Maybe it was something like Stevens and Williams made for Elwell perhaps?
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10318/DSCF1198.jpg
I think there's a Stevens and Williams purple bowl in one of the books with these bubbles - page 148 by Keith Murray of Charles Hajdamach's 20th Century British Glass, but the bubbles look a watery but further spaced out than yours.

m