Topic: Tall golden amber Hock type glass

[WhatHo!]

Hi, can any one help me with this quality glass please.
Its 8" tall, golden amber lead crystal and has dimple moulded bowl.
Reminds me of something from 30s to me possibly.
Any ideas? cheers Wolfie

[bfg]

have you looked at Webb? and have you put a UV torch on it?

[Paul S.]

the bowl could be what's called a tulip shape, and T/Webb certainly did make that shape.          If you look at Charles Hajdamach's first book covering the period 1800 - 1914, there's an Appendix 7 covering optical surface effects produced by T/Webb.
I could be wrong, but this one doesn't look regular enough to be Fircone or Honeycomb, but might just be Water Wave.
Would be interested to know if it glows..........if not then possibly not T/Webb.

[Paul S.]

sorry, meant to say that a shot of the underside of the foot could be useful

[WhatHo!]

What Ho! Thanks for the replies. Here is a pic of the foot, its has circular lines of striation and is not perfectly round. The underside of the foot slopes up following the topside angle and in the middle it flattens out and bulges very slightly downward. There is no ground pontil. I have 8 of these and all have same feet, being very slightly uneven with circular striation.
Having a good look at the mould blown bowl, it looks to be of an even honeycomb style and the top rim is very thin, max 1mm.

[WhatHo!]

Ooooooo, just put a UV light on them and they are glowing!!

[bfg]

 ....and 8! nice one.

Paul, I was just trawling through CH's  20th Century book for something else and saw a John Walsh Walsh brochure picture page 125 plate 249

'Sunbeam' amber - iridescent but the shape looks a better match with the longer stem - thoughts?

[Lustrousstone]

I think you're right Mel; same shape different range

[Paul S.]

then honeycomb it may well be Wolfie - I couldn't really see clearly from the first pix. and from experience I know these surface patterns from T/Webb can be confusing.

Wolfie hasn't commented that his piece is iridescent, so on that basis would assume his is not from the Walsh range showing in Hajdamach, although it may well be that Walsh made a straightforward amber uranium mix that wasn't given an iridescent finish.           Does Christine know if that is the case?
Could be wrong, but the surface effect on the Walsh stemware showing in Hajdamach appears to be a sort lattice pattern.

The lack of ground pontil is quite in line with much of Walsh's smaller stemware  -  I've a rummer and wine glass from them that have a similar finish to the underside of this foot  -  although they did grind the bottoms of tumblers it seems.

Walsh were hit and miss with their backstamp, and even when present can be the devil to see.              Difficult to judge the lengths of stemware or to make comparisons, from pictures only, but you may be correct that Walsh are longer.

Anyway, these are a nice find and to have a set of eight, well................we're all very green.

[Lustrousstone]

Tehy're not iridescent but they are the same shape in a honeycomb design - but not a Webb honeycomb. The pattern is finer in the Webb. I would go with Walsh