Topic: unidentified S glass mark on blue candlestick - ID = Thos. Webb

[David E]

It is almost certain that a Thomas Webb piece with that 'S' mark would be a Second. All the later Webb pieces I have come with the usual 3-line acid etched mark, so the absence of this leads to this conclusion.

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[keith]

Hello David, I've gone over my candle stick with a lens and can't find a thing wrong with it, no dents, bubbles, wonkyness nothing, if it is a second they must have been very fussy in the product control dep't,

[David E]

On the same tack, I have a few Stuart 'seconds' dating back to the 1920s, which have the -S- mark. Like you I often can't see anything wrong with them, but the must have been some reason for not accepting these as a 'first'. Perhaps the quality control is just beyond our best scrutinisations! 

[keith]

Could be, I've just measured mine at it's half inch shorter than the blue ones, would this qualify it as being a second ? 

[David E]

Yes, almost certainly - closer scrutiny, y'see! 

[bat20]

I would guess the 's' mark is alot rarer than the T Webb mark itself and a must for the serious collector.

[Lustrousstone]

the -S- mark on Stuart will be for Stonier I think, not second