Topic: Frosted stoppered pot RD 717747, 1925-26 - precise registration details, please?

[agincourt17]

A small urn-shaped stoppered pot of frosted glass; 10cm high with a maximum diameter of 6.5cm. The shoulders of the pot body have an embossed border of petals or leaf tips, and the lid of the hollow stopper is embossed to resemble a flower head. The base is embossed REGd. No. 717747 and 5549.

(Permission for the re-use of the images on the GMB granted by Christine Gojke).

RD 717747 is not listed at http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/regnos08.htm.

The design should have been registered between September 1925 and February 1926.

Is RD 717747 in the Blue Book? If so, would some kind GMB member let me have the precise registration details, please?

Fred.

[Paul S.]

hi Fred  -  it's coupled with 717746, and was Registered to International Bottle Co., Ltd., on 12th December 1925.

No idea what 5549 means, although suspect a manufacturers pattern or design No.

I'd have said a pickle, but it looks a tad short for that  -  however, still might be  -  stopper is very typical of pickle stopper.

[Lustrousstone]

More likely talc or bath salts with that flowery top

[agincourt17]

Thank you, Paul and Christine.

I though that it was probably for cosmetics of some kind, and bath salts especially was likely to be in a container with a wide stoppered top rather than a screw lidded top. Perfume or other liquid would have been in a container with a much narrower stoppered neck.

Fred.

[Paul S.]

yes, I have to admit that you're both probably correct, and on reflection the satinized/frosted surface almost certainly means for cosmetics and not pickles  -  after all, you'd want to see your pickles

[Simba]

I just bought a green pot the same as this, not uranium, this company also made another novelty bottle I have which is a dog, they are very small bottles I thought possibly for smelling salts ? this company has been discussed here previously, see pic of my Dog shaped bottle here... http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,22056.msg346641.html#msg346641
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Last picture (in this post) to give you an idea of scale alongside a Walther small trinket pot.

[Paul S.]

Did we ever find out what 717746 was for which also IBC and Registered on the same date?

[Simba]

 Christine has another piece by this company ...http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1460

[Paul S.]

thanks  -  Christine's is another one that originally was one of a pair Registered on 13th August 1926, its other half being 723257  -  seems to be a habit that these IBC Registrations come along in pairs.............   just possible perhaps that it was a method of IBC that they Registered the shape and decoration, of each item, separately - thus creating two Nos.

Unfortunately, it will be a forgone conclusion that the Kew Register will simply record the Registrant as IBC  -  there won't be any help toward knowing the source of manufacture - that's assuming it wasn't made in the U.K.

Just out of interest I'll look at the original drawing etc. when I next visit Kew, and hope to put some pix up on the Board.

[Simba]

That would be interesting thanks Paul...does it mean that the pot and the lid were registered as separate designs ? Maybe the lid fits other pots as well ?