Topic: Intriguing glass

[Antwerp1954]

I've bought this glass but I'm not sure how old it is and where made.

It has an odd shape like those 4 lobed Dresden cups Watteau pictures on them. The glass is 18.7cm tall and gives yellow luminescence under UV. The metal contains the usual bubbles and inclusions. It does however sound quite 'metallic' when tapped. No ponti mark. The faces are wheel engraved in a rococo/rocaille style reminiscent of a mid-18th century  continental glass I have. It also resembles some of the Silesian glasses from the Krug collection Vol 2 nos. 405, 406, 410.

The bowl rim is ground and the glass shows quite a bit of wear and not just on the foot or bowl rim.

Over to you. All ideas and opinions greatlyappreciated.

[neil53]

Hi Stuart,

Nice glass.  Is this the one that was in Mitchell's sale earlier this month?  The glass looks Silesian (or possibly Bohemian) to me (1740-1750?) but I could be wrong (I most often am when determining the origins of Continental glass) and Peter or Paul may have a better view of it.  Peter, at least, has the reference material which I lack. 

By the way, considering your interest in Continental glass you shoudl have a look at today's sales at Bonhams in New Bond Street.

Best wishes
Neil

[Antwerp1954]

Neil

Yes  - it's the one sold at Mitchell's. it's a really nice glass and I took a gamble, after doing some research, that they had misdated and didn't know where it was made. By describing it as "Continental" indicated to me that they were not sure at all.

Bonham's - Wow! Collecting Bohemian flash glass is something I'm trying not to do. So far resisting temptation. The prices at Bonham's are in contrast with the price of the sweet little jug I've just bought from yourself.

Regards

Stuart

[Paul S.]

nice of Neil to put my name forward, but I have enough difficulty with British, let alone getting embroiled outside these shores      So will leave such Continental pieces to Peter and yourself, as usual.             As Neil says, Peter does have the necessary books etc., which should help a lot.
Nonetheless, a very nice looking glass, and fingers crossed it turns out to be special.

[Antwerp1954]

Peter

Any thoughts. I'd very much welcomeany comments you may have.

Thanks

Stuart

[oldglassman]

Hi ,
  I think it has all been said really,yes probably Silesian and 18th c ,as to special I would say not , the glass form is fairly standard and its the decoration that can make some of this form "special" though from what I can see the decoration on yours is fairly basic with no great quality or significance,having said that though "special"is not always required as long as the glass appeals and the price is right with thoughts of investment not in mind .

cheers ,
             Peter.

[Antwerp1954]

Peter

Many thanks. I agree that the engraving is basic and of standard quality. I bought it because it was different, appealed to me and adds something different to my collection.

Thanks

Stuart