Topic: Thomas Webb 'Ripple' in blue

[Paul S.]

just for interest really  -  this blue from T/Webb appears uncommon  -  and I've only one other small piece in this colour - is it possible this was the last colour the factory produced, after the greens, amethysts, amber and uranium variations etc.?            The backstamp also differs slightly in size and style from other backstamps from T/Webb.
Not one of their biggest bowls, but quite a chunky thing at something like 7.75" (200mm).

[keith]

Like the colour,very much like the piece in the pic' below,I've not seen a mark like that one before,as you say maybe late production,

[Paul S.]

thanks Keith  -  it seems they had just this one shade of blue, and I'm sure it's late production.

[nigel benson]

Nice find - That's lovely Paul 

Funnily enough I bought a black footed one with a clear bowl, the same shape as yours last week. Not as striking as your .....but might be once it's been de-bloomed 

I haven't checked, but isn't the pattern called 'Cascade'?

Nigel

 

[Paul S.]

thanks Nigel.            I've just compared this with W/Fs sanctuary blue, which I think on balance is perhaps a little more of a softer blue blue, if you know what I mean  -  this T/Webb colour looks a little harsh in comparison - not quite so appealing at the W/Fs colour.

Thanks for the correction on the pattern, my apologies - you're correct - and this one is indeed 'cascade'..........it has some similarity to the 'horizontal wave' pattern although with that design the lines are spaced further apart and the undulations are less intense.
All of these T/Webb decorative designs can be seen (in b. & w.) on pages 432 and 433 of Charles Hajdamach's book 'British Glass 1800 - 1914' - I should read the books more often.

According to Hajdamach (the author's book on C20 Glass, page 141), 'Venetian Ripple', and I quote, "is known in the trade as heavy pillar mould" .................   which if you look again at page 432 in the earlier book under 'pillar', seems not to be rippling .           However, apparently 'pillar' is also known sometimes in a round/twisted form...........so guess that's possibly where the reference comes from.

Of course, I could be very wrong, in which case someone correct me.

thanks again. 

 

[Paul S.]

meant to say Nigel............     If we're speaking of the same Tuesday venue, then I did see the black footed clear bowled example of which you speak  -  I considered buying it but was worried a little about the bloom.         Wish you luck in removing it, which I suspect can be achieved professionally without a problem, although my own efforts can be hit and miss.            I've spent hours in the past, but despite much elbow grease the results are not always successful.
The range of foot to bowl colour combinations from T/Webb seems quite extensive -  shame that we don't currently have a book to assist.
I had a uranium foot with clear vase from Ardingly recently  -  smallish, but attractive and not a combination I's seen before.

[nigel benson]

Those uranium feet are more often seen on drinking glasses by T Webb, so nice to find a vase with it

Interesting observations about 'pillar' moulding  Can't check it through at the moment - trying to hit article deadlines for this week.....eeek!!

I don't think that blue is harsh, certainly not what I meant earlier 'cos I like it

Nigel

[David E]

I do have an amethyst vase in Cascade with a black foot, but I wasn't convinced it was Webb - no acid-etch signature. Does yours have a sig, Nigel?

[nigel benson]

Hi David,

Yes, indeed it does. Nice and clear on the black background 

Cheers, Nigel

PS. It's my guess that the black foot is likely to signify that they are early in the production, given that it's a very Art deco look - admittedly gained from looking at Scandinavian - and also producing their own, Anna Fogelberg, black footed items. N.

[David E]

Thanks for confirming, Nigel. I would also go with an earlier production run. However, another point about my vase (it was a tall vase not broad like Paul's, but I'll find it later and post a photo) is that it didn't have the pontil ground away and polished as is more conventional for Webb, but being an applied foot, perhaps not?