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Offline Fuhrman Glass

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I.D. Please small wine glasses
« on: December 18, 2013, 11:09:42 PM »
Can anyone help me with and I.D. on these small copper wheel engraved wine glasses. 4 3/4" tall X 2 1/8" dia.
These are out of my expertise and have come down thru the family. How Old? made by whom or where?

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Re: I.D. Please small wine glasses
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 11:11:09 PM »
here's another photo

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Re: I.D. Please small wine glasses
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 11:12:24 PM »
and another

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Re: I.D. Please small wine glasses
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 11:56:05 PM »
Hi FG,i'm afraid you'll have to wait for someone with more knowledge than me to come along,but can i ask what type of pontil they have.

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Re: I.D. Please small wine glasses
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2013, 04:26:38 AM »
I'll hazard a possibility...20s Hawkes, fairly straightforward copper wheel engraving (a few examples below). Also not uncommon if they originally came as a set of 8 to 12 that only one in the set would be marked Hawkes. 

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Re: I.D. Please small wine glasses
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2013, 04:09:35 PM »
photo showing pontil. appears to be concave polished pontil. they are handblown without a mold as there is a small difference in size between them, including height and diameter and diameter of stem. Tops are very thin about 1/16" thick or less.
Thanks for the info on Hawkes.

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Re: I.D. Please small wine glasses
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2013, 05:28:44 PM »
hi - I was interested to know quite why Ken was so quick to suggest Hawkes. :)  -  perhaps the op is in the States, which would explain that response.           
Copper wheel engraving was a commonplace decoration produced in most countries for many decades  -  but what strikes me as unusual is the size of of the depression  -  I'd say unusually large and symmetrical for such small glasses - and this feaure might help to indicate some particular origin. :)

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Re: I.D. Please small wine glasses
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2013, 07:46:36 PM »
only 2 have that ground and polished puntie mark, the other one has not been ground and has a very minute tit where it was attached and possibly fired polished

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Re: I.D. Please small wine glasses
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2013, 08:21:55 PM »
Ahh,two with polished pontils and one with a Dennis Wise,that's unusual??

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Re: I.D. Please small wine glasses
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2013, 09:09:40 PM »
hi - I was interested to know quite why Ken was so quick to suggest Hawkes. :)  -  perhaps the op is in the States, which would explain that response.           
Copper wheel engraving was a commonplace decoration produced in most countries for many decades  -  but what strikes me as unusual is the size of of the depression  -  I'd say unusually large and symmetrical for such small glasses - and this feaure might help to indicate some particular origin. :)

Yes Paul it was (1) OP is from the U.S. (2) Hawkes cut/engraved stemware with this type of engraving, far more so than anyone else to the best of my knowledge since Hawkes frequently bought blanks from other Corning glassworks so the supply was almost endless & based on these factors I suggested Hawkes as a possibility even though granted others also did this type of work.  Also in the very early 1900s Hawkes introduced a line of engraved glassware called "Gravic". It consisted of naturalistic designs, stone-wheel engraved, and usually left in a matte finish which is what the OP's exhibited so I thought it was worth a shot.

Actually Hawkes still exists today as  "Crystal Traditions" (Tiffin, Ohio) who purchased the Hawkes name & logo in 1989 from the Tiffin Glass Co. (even though Tiffin closed in 1983) Tiffin aquired Hawkes in 1964 & from 64 to 80 Hawkes cutting was used on Tiffin blanks.

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