Topic: Can anyone help with a maker/use for this victorian stand

[brucebanner]

Hello there, i picked this is up with a decanter a couple of days ago, the decanter is on one of my posts and dated to roughly the same age as this. It's pressed glass, lead crystal and  has lot's of "grit" i think you call it (white particles within the glass). There is no wear at all on it anywhere even on the facing edges or damage with just a tiny amount wear to the base, i'ts dated either I for 1872 or P for 1877 there are no other makers marks that i can see, i'm not really sure what it's for.

It measures 10 inches across the rim and 7 inches across the base, regards Chris.

[chopin-liszt]

It's a cake stand.
A bit fashionable again at the moment, with the current trend for tiny sponges, suffocated by a ton of chemically coloured sugar. 

[flying free]

isn't it read from top to right and round 3, E, I, 5?
The letter on the right looks like an E to me so wouldn't it date to July (I) 1881 (E) as it ha s number at the top?
I've no idea but it reminds me of a rd design plate I had that was Davidson's.
Have just checked but I couldn't see any registered July 1881 though -- sorry.
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[Paul S.]

perhaps Fred or Neil will recognize the pattern.            I've tried going through the images for the second diamond group, but don't see a cake stand that matches.            It may be that whatever was being Registered was not first Registered on such a shaped piece.        Can't read the figures on the diamond properly  -  try taking a blu-tack impression perhaps.

[neilh]

Well I'm gonna go for 3-Y-1-6 which would be 1879 and match up with John Shaw & Sons, Sheffield, according to Slack. Not a name with which I am familiar.

[brucebanner]

I have a few quite pieces of Victorian pressed glass, a lot of it rings and vibrates better than crystal, i should create a program to define tones and frequency at which lead content effects the sound and pitch of glass once tapped, but i fear if i could, only a handful of people would be interested and i would not make my fortune. Middle right letter is either an i or a p, i have tried the blue tack but the impression was to faint.

[agincourt17]

It is Sowerby's pattern 1054, which appears in their pattern book XI (1885).

The design was registered on 31 July 1873 - Parcel 5 (so the lozenge should read 31-F-I-5), and the registered design number is 274743.

Pre-1876, so no Sowerby peacock head trademark

The design registration is presumably for the decorative pattern, because there are several shapes bearing the same lozenge.

See the thumbnails on the GMB RD photo reference database at
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=763&page=13

Fred.

[brucebanner]

Thanks for your help guys i'll take a few more pictures of the mark in daylight and see if it comes out a bit clearer. what is this "slack" neil ?

[agincourt17]

‘Slack’ refers to the core reference book “ English Pressed Glass 1830-1900” by Raymond Slack, first published in 1987 by Barrie & Jenkins Ltd., ISBN 0712618716.

Particularly useful for its chronological list of design registrations 1842-1900 (giving year, date of registration, registered number and details of manufacturer or registrant. 

Long out of print, with second-hand copies currently fetching £16.89 upwards on www.Amazon.co.uk. Well worth getting a copy.

Fred.

[brucebanner]

Ok Fred thanks for that i'll get a copy and looking again with my loupe it does look like an F, it's the old case when you know it's obvious, i could keep everyone on here entertained for years i do hope it's not getting on poeples nerves me posting so much?