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Author Topic: Rare Blue Glass Plate I.D HELP+++++++ ID = Sowerby  (Read 1278 times)

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Offline damogale

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Rare Blue Glass Plate I.D HELP+++++++ ID = Sowerby
« on: January 28, 2014, 04:23:04 PM »
Hi there all,

Please help, these are 2 Glass plates in pale blue, 9.5 inches in diameter

Needs: I.G of makers, age, origin and all knowledge would be great

Hope you can help

Regards DG

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Re: Rare Blue Glass Plate I.D HELP+++++++
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2014, 04:42:00 PM »
This is a Sowerby plate (Tyneside, England), known to Carnival Glass collectors as Wickerwork. The moulded trademark is the Sowerby peacock.

If you look at this page and scroll down, you will see two Carnival Glass examples of the plate and stand.

http://www.thistlewoods.net/Sowerby-display.html
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Re: Rare Blue Glass Plate I.D HELP+++++++
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2014, 04:44:25 PM »
MANY THANKS GREAT INFO!!!!!!

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Re: Rare Blue Glass Plate I.D HELP+++++++
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2014, 04:45:10 PM »
As Glen says, Sowerby, but fairly common not rare in blue (or white)

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Re: Rare Blue Glass Plate I.D HELP+++++++
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2014, 04:48:13 PM »
Some extra nuggets of info for you: the moulded pattern is, of course, a basketweave design and it had the number 1102 in Sowerby's Pattern Books. It was first used by Sowerby in the 1880s, while the iridised Carnival versions would have been produced circa 1920s. The matching stand (you can see it in the link I gave above) may have two Sowerby peacock marks! It comes in a range of colours included pale blue, slag and rare giallo (a yellow shade).

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Re: Rare Blue Glass Plate I.D HELP+++++++
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2014, 05:03:09 PM »
Welcome to the GMB, DG.

Coming to post my reply, I see that most of my points have already been made by others, but for what they are worth, here they are anyway.

Your plates were made by Sowerby & Co., Ellison Glass Works, Gateshead-on Tyne.

The peacock head trade mark on the underside is Sowerby’s trademark, introduced in 1876.

The pale blue plates are press moulded in a type of opaque glass that Sowerby called vitro-porcelain (which was manufactured like glass but had a compostion and appearance of porcelain) and which first appeared in 1877.

The basket weave plates are Sowerby pattern number 1102 (and they are sometime found with a matching stand, which has the same pattern number). They are from an unregistered design (and so do not have a diamond registry date mark), but they seem to have been made in various colours of vitro-porcelain from the late 1870s for quite a long time (probably though well into the late 1880s or even beyond).

The plates are also seen in marbled ‘slag glass’ of various colours (which Sowerby called ‘malachite’ glass) which probably date from the more or less the same sort of date, a ruby red glass (probably from the 1880s-1890s), and even iridised carnival glass from the 1920s-1930s.

The vitro-porcelain pattern 1102 plates are not particularly uncommon (and certainly not ‘rare’ in white, black or blue (though the examples in yellowish green vitro-porcelain are much less common). The malachite glass examples are not uncommon either, but the transparent ruby examples (particularly with their matching stands) are quite scarce.

Fred.

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Re: Rare Blue Glass Plate I.D HELP+++++++
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2014, 05:28:48 PM »

Wow really appreciate all the responses guys very helpful

Regards DG

 

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