Topic: The best cameo work?

[Ohio]

[Mod: This topic has been created out of additional comments originally appended to a thread about a queried Galle cameo vase - see http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,55574.0.html]

Personally I think English Cameo is the finest not to take anything away from Galle, its just a matter of personal choice. Everyone has probably seen this from the Corning museum, but if not I think its worth looking through.

  http://d3seu6qyu1a8jw.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/collections/DA/DAD1DEEE-4B86-491B-B804-69C7B1F46B40.pdf

[flying free]

I love that book. 
It's funny though isn't it, how different things appeal.  I can see the exquisiteness of those pieces, the immaculate beauty in the designs and subjects, the perfection in the way they are made and how absolutely stunning they are.
But for me, these have the greatest appeal   (you need to scroll down to see the vases)
http://naturalisticspoon.com/Emile_Galle.html

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[chopin-liszt]

Not my thing at all, Ohio - I just feel... "eeeek more boring Wedgwoody stuff", can't get past it quick enough.

(I spent far too much of my childhood being dragged around castles and chateaus and churches and that sort of thing, saw more than enough ormalu and classical greek/roman stuff for a lifetime, by the age of 10. Overkill put me off.)

Give me the Galle.

[oldglassman]

 Hi ,
            My vote goes to English cameo glass , its not all Wedgwoody stuff !!!.

  cheers ,
                  Peter

[keith]

Woodall was the master ! 

[Ohio]

I understand Sue...I was raised in a house that had several hundred pieces of Roseville, Weller & older Wedgwood so I am guilty of being a Jekyll & Hyde. I cannot stand pottery/porcelain, to this  day but when its carved on glass I am in awe of the hand craftmanship it took to achieve the result.

[chopin-liszt]

I'm a hot-worked glass person, I'm not really into cold-worked at all.
I understand the level of skill required, but rarely see the point of doing it on glass.

The whole point of glass (to me) is it's clarity and fluidity, it's ability to capture a sculpture of colour, frozen in a moment of time.

[oldglassman]

 HI,
                I thought Galle et al were cold worked .
  cheers ,
                 Peter

[chopin-liszt]

But Galle looks fluid - I was being general, Peter. 

[flying free]

I feel if we are adding examples that it's a must to include some from 1855 - c.1860's done in Bohemia.  To me, they are simply superb.
Especially the three layer examples, blue over white over clear.  There are some examples in red which I'll add if I can find.  Just to re-iterate, these were made in the 1850's and 1860's and indeed the the first one was made in 1855.

The first one which is the goblet at the V&A is actually a huge piece and I don't think their photos do it quite justice really.  I'll try and find some clearer closer ones as the clear background on this is all completely engraved with swirls which you don't see on their pics iirc.
Amazing works of art - do take a look

Large chalice at the V & A 1855
Franz Paul Zach
http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/articles/g/glass-goblet-by-franz-paul-zach/

Josephinenhutte  covered pokal c.1860’s I think
http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2005-2w-zelasko-schaffgotsch.pdf

covered goblet c.1860  Corning Museum att. Karl Pfohl probably
http://www.cmog.org/artwork/covered-goblet-5

pokal c.1855
http://www.dorotheum.com/typo3temp/pics/a252d97b19.jpg

Copy of the Portland Vase
http://www.cmog.org/artwork/copy-portland-vase
Franz Paul Zach 1862

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20942/lot/1502/
Att. Franz Paul Zach c.1860