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Offline azelismia

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J Walsh Walsh?
« on: March 12, 2014, 12:09:26 AM »
I bought this piece for one reason, it was iridescent with what appeared to be a pattern that Walsh was known for and I had never seen that before? So is this actually J WW?

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Re: J Walsh Walsh?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2014, 03:04:39 AM »
Yes, Walsh green mother of pearl.   Another green example made using the same pattern mould is illustrated in Leibe/Hayhurst, p22.   Both Gulliver and Reynolds only illustrate flint and canary opalescent Walsh mother of pearl.   I am likely to have one or two green examples on my stand at the National in May, including at least one stemmed example.

Bernard C.  8)
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Re: J Walsh Walsh?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2014, 04:03:23 AM »
thanks Bernard! Wish I was in England so I could visit your stall! Visiting an English and French show is on my bucket list! (East coast of USA as well)

could you give me more information on that book? I only have gulliver and hadjamach for english glass.. (And 1 sotheby's catalog that supposedly was a very good reference) I need as many good english glass references as I can find!

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Re: J Walsh Walsh?
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2014, 08:44:35 AM »
Ah.   So you're in Westpondia!   It could be a significant advantage as much of the best Walsh was exported there.   Some of Eric Reynolds' best pieces came from the USA.

To explain:-

1. Leibe/Hayhurst is Miller's Glass of the '20s & '30s, A Collector's Guide, 1999.

2. Reynolds (Eric) is The Glass of John Walsh Walsh 1850-1951, 1999.

3. "mother of pearl" uncapitalised, with or without hyphens, has nothing to do at all with the US collector expression "MOP" or "Mother of Pearl" which was one manufacturer's trade name for air trap that was genericised by one of the early US authors, possibly Heacock, apparently under pressure from his publisher as a device to force collectors to buy his books, unnecessarily, as it turned out, as Heacock's books were so good.   It's use in the Walsh context indicates a range that looks like natural mother of pearl or nacre, dating from the late C19, and found in flint, canary (yellow uranium) opalescent, green, probably amber, and possibly other plain or opalescent colours.   It's distinguishing feature is that the tiny initial gather was of white opal, probably a lampshade glass.   You can see this best on stemmed examples.   Sometimes this very thin inner layer can be seen as a fine crackle effect on the inside curve of a flared rim.   I believe the expression mother of pearl in this context was first used by Leibe/Hayhurst.   It is likely that it would be replaced by Walsh's own name for the range if we could discover it.

4. Correction.   The canary opalescent Walsh pieces in Gulliver and Reynolds are probably not mother of pearl as I said above.   Canary opalescent mother of pearl is quite rare - I sold my only certain example for some years at Cambridge last month.   It can be quite difficult to distinguish between the two, although the iridescence on mother of pearl helps, that is, if you are prepared to accept that, at the time, only mother of pearl was iridised.   My experience is that general rules like that always throw up exceptions.

Hope that helps,

Bernard C.  8)
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Re: J Walsh Walsh?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2014, 11:46:01 AM »
Yes, that's very very helpful! thanks so much for your time! I'll be sure to hunt those books down!

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Re: J Walsh Walsh?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2014, 12:28:09 PM »
I believe this to be canary opalescent mother of pearl
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1578
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1577

I also saw Alisa's pattern in canary opalescent mother of pearl on a small upright vase at a fair a month ago. The price for the condition wasn't agreeable unfortunately  :'(

PS is it uranium Alisa; I keep forgetting to ask (if so it needs to be on my wish list).

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Re: J Walsh Walsh?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2014, 12:08:32 AM »
Much to my surprise it IS uranium. I just tested it with the dosimeter. it's 2.39 inside the vase (dangerous radiation) and on the outside of the vase it's high radiation levels 1.18

 

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