Topic: Iridescent vases with blue ground and fake Loetz signatures - ID = Okra

[glassobsessed]

Well they were sold as fake and as far as I can tell the signatures are suspect.

Some Loetz marks, more on the second page: http://users.skynet.be/fa000612/identifying.htm

So I guess I have two questions, firstly are those signatures dodgy? If so that leads to the second question, who made the vases? Okra on a bad day? Could they be American?

John

Whoops, heights are 17cm and 20cm, glass is quite thick.

[scimiman]

And what's wrong with Okra? I remember some of these being sold by Fieldings as exactly what they were signed. Okra never put the signatures on there.  www.abfabglass.co.uk

[glassobsessed]

Where did I say there was anything wrong with Okra and for that matter where did I imply that they may have been signed this way by Okra?

[scimiman]

Okra on a bad day?

[glassobsessed]

Exactly, not the finesse and quality I would have expected from Okra.

[scimiman]

Well for your information they were Okra and very early ones when Richard was still experimenting.
So on a good day rather than a bad one.

 www.abfabglass.co.uk

[glassobsessed]

That explains the the thickness of the glass and the odd imperfection. For your information thanks.

[chopin-liszt]

Somebody dodgy must have put the writing on...
Okra isn't to everybody's taste.

[scimiman]

It may not be to every bodies taste that I can happily accept and understand but its not for them to speak or use their name in derogatory terms or any other studio come to that and so far they haven't had the good grace to apologise.
www.abfabglass.co.uk

[chopin-liszt]

John and I are both very forgiving of the lack of finesse in early work by great artists, that does not mean we can't see it lacks the finesse which is eventually gained over the years. He has nothing to apologise for.