Topic: Id help needed please.

[Krecik]

A recent purchase that I need help identifying.

[paperweights]

I've had a few of these and never been able to pin down a definite maker.  They resemble an American (New England Glass Company) Nosegay on a double latticinio ground.  For the examples that I have had, the number of strands in the latticinio matches what is expected for NEGC.  However, the profile is flat and the quality of the millefiori is lacking.  So, I concluded it is either American by an unidentified maker or (you guessed it) Bohemian.

I'm interested in what others have to say about this.

[tropdevin]

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HI.

I am fairly sure that these are Chinese, from the first part of the 20th century.  They made very good pansies on excellent spiral grounds, and I have seen several nosegays like this on good white spirals but with rather crude Chinese canes at the centre.  I also have a single large flower on yellow a Chinese yellow spiral ground.  I think these are modelled on antique examples - NEGC and Bohemia respectively.  I have not seen any evidence they come from 'Bohemia'.

Alan

[Krecik]

Thanks for the responses.  This paperweight was part of an auction group that did not have the best picture.   Based on the Auction picture I had assumed it was NEGC.  After getting it in my hands it was far from the quality I have seen with NEGC I have also seen better quality Chinese.   It is flatter than I expected , has a slightly concave base and just looks too older than expected for Chinese.

[tropdevin]

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Hi

I found an image of one I had some time ago (not very good quality - apologies).

Alan

[Krecik]

The weights look to be made by the same maker.  If yours is chinese then the weight I am questioning must also be chinese.    Thanks.     It looks like the auction lot was a diverse group , It included  this paperweight , the German/Silesian weight and the Lily of the valley.   Thanks .

[Roger H]

Yes they look very much alike. Do they both have a hollow ground and polished base?
   Roger

[paperweights]

I do not agree that this paperweight is Chinese.  The Chinese examples are more sophisticated.  I will stick with my original opinion that this is either unknown American (based on the rod count) or European in origin.  Although the execution is poor and the profile is flat, the glass is better quality than Chinese paperweights.

[Roger H]

The reason I asked about the base contour is because I have never seen an old chinese with a polished base although I understand there are a few modern ones that do.
      Roger

[Krecik]

 The base is polished and slightly concave with an irregular shape.