Topic: Repair to champagne glass?

[oldglassman]

Hi,
           quote,,,, Do we know this as a fact?  I think that's why I was making a comment on it - is it right or not?  It doesn't look right to my eye, but I've never seen these before this thread so I wouldn't know.

  No its not right, it is 2 glasses that have been hot welded together,and this would never have been done at production time.it is a well known if not very pleasing to the eye repair technique but in this case it has been done to create something to have fun with or deceive,and if the the hands of an ignorant seller they may believe it to be original.Some sellers respond well to an informed opinion others don't ,I leave it you to guess which category this seller falls into .

cheers ,
             Peter.

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[glassobsessed]

There is not a board policy on not highlighting auction listings, why people keep claiming that there is I do not know. There is I suppose a convention that many of us do not want to, for many and varied reasons.

This is the actual guidance from Anne (all hail ): http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,54118.0.html

Personally, I am happy to highlight something I think is fraudulent but I am not about to start policing thousands and thousands of online listings. I got one quite wrong in the past too...

John

[flying free]

Thanks John I'd just not remembered what the outcome of the last query on this was.

Good to know there isn't a policy - For me I think it's also good to keep counsel unless one has proof to support comment
And no one wants to police  .  But if one comes across something obviously 'wrong' then I suppose sometimes it might be a good course of action to ask.
As Paul said , caveat emptor.
m

[chopin-liszt]

My most recent "wrong 'un" was fairly spectacular. 
I confidently id'd a large ugly lump of brightly coloured thick glass as "contemporary Chinese from TKMaxx" with a silly price on.

It was Muller Freres.

(but still a very big ugly bright lump)
Fortunately, it wasn't in any important setting, and Michael didn't really care what it was.

[Paul S.]

well 'in my opinion this thread has not been described correctly'.

My original point was that I believed the Board's policy was that any response from the GMB to live ebay listings, should not be critical  -  and that is really borne out by the essence of Anne's original comments.

I see no point in bothering to waste time discussing a listing if at the end of the day we have no teeth with which to bite - we can't police ebay and then there are those items that we could well get wrong anyway!
It wasn't intended that criticism should be all embracing  -  we've discussed that there are many occasions when a seller's description would be difficult to refute, but there are others where there is genuine mis-description, and a percentage of those sellers are amenable to changing their wording.     
It will be easier to tell people to go out and spend £300 on books and learn about glass, because in the long run they'll save themselves money.

None of which prevents Board members, as private individuals, from communicating with a seller and doing their best to put a wrong right (or should that be right a wrong .

[chopin-liszt]

The problem (I believe) is that unsubstantiated comments (ie. without documented proof) could be considered as detrimental to the business of the seller, so the worry was getting sued.
Nowadays, the rights of a business to be able to continue seem to override the rights of the consumers.

[orangeglass]

Just had to say I was reading this thread though it is not my field at all - looked at the ebay link - that is the best laugh I have had in ages!

Roberta

[flying free]

and thank you Peter for clarifying

m

[brucebanner]

I think any decent seller would appreciate any help given to them to increase their sales, the problem is which i have tried to highlight before is that when something is listed incorrectly, say a riihimaki vase for example on Ebay or wherever the internet search enignes pick this up and it put the image of this vase straight into the top internet images for selection, it could be from ryde or aeseda and people who collect these start to think a ryde vase is Riiihimaki and people selling a vase similar in shape see the picture think they have a riiihimaki vase and list it as such and the chain begins to get more confused, even the links on here show up on search engines so if people are helped and put straight it will in a small way clear things up or stop people wasting money on incorrect pieces.

[flying free]

here is a double ended glass (well, glass and bell actually) in the Grand Curtius museum formerly of the Musee du Verre
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Glass_in_the_Grand_Curtius#/media/File:Verre_%C3%A0_boire_et_cloche_(Li%C3%A8ge,_17e_ou_18e_si%C3%A8cle),_Grand_Curtius,_Li%C3%A8ge.JPG

Description says
17th or 18th century drinking glass and table bell, produced in Liège, formerly in the collection of the Musée du verre, now the Grand Curtius in Liège, Belgium.

If you click on the link you can see the bell in closeup and see the clapper

m