Topic: Monart or not ?

[orangeglass]

Thanks all - I have another piece I am now dubious about 
Will post in the ID section - could it be Czech ?? Any comments appreciated 

Roberta

[Gary]

I think that I've only ever seen polished concave pontils on Monart when it's a bowl that necessitates it's use - ie. If an applied disk would show through.

These orange pieces are commonly thought to be Czech from the same pre-war Monart era. Certainly not Monart.

Nigel

I have a Monart MF and OE shape vases with polished concave pontils. Though it is mainly as you said Nigel in bowls where that type of pontil finish was used.
Gary

[nigel benson]

That's interesting Gary, thanks. What sort of decoration do they have, toward opaque or clear??

Nigel

[millarart]

the only ones  I own with concave pontils are some bowls and pre war and post war lamps with applied foot,

[orangeglass]

I have a couple on applied feet on bowls, one on a bowl where the "foot" is blown as part of the  bowl, did own an OE shape vase with one too but in the main they don't tend to be very neatly done!

Anyone care to comment on my other vase:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,57683.0.html

Roberta

[Gary]

That's interesting Gary, thanks. What sort of decoration do they have, toward opaque or clear??

Nigel

The MF is colour code 396 so the base is green the OE vase very lightly applied dull yellow and clear glass.
Gary

[nigel benson]

Thanks Gary, but does that mean in each case the pontil would be easily visible though the base or not?

Cheers, Nigel

[Gary]

The OE the pontil mark is visable looking from the top of the vase where as the MF is not visable looking from the top, the MF has a label on the base.
Gary

[nigel benson]

Hmm, so my pet theory of it being used on bowls (and with your vases, now vases as well) in order to make the pontil less intrusive into the pattern is getting shot, darn it  Of course this assumes the removal of the label by the owner once the item is washed/taken home from the shop, etc. 

Nigel

[Frank]

Took me five weeks to decide to remove label from the front of my toilet bowl. Decided in the end it would probably not become collectible.