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Author Topic: ID help - millefiori bowl faceted with green overlay  (Read 2634 times)

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Offline LesBeatiques

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ID help - millefiori bowl faceted with green overlay
« on: October 17, 2014, 09:38:15 PM »
Hello all,

A little help would be much obliged. This bowl is roughly 2-3/4" tall with a 3-7/8" diameter across the top. It has a white and green overlay with three levels of faceting, window cutaway round the outer circumferance & two levels of faceting round the lower third portion. The canes are set in a transparent emerald green and the bowl rests on a semi concave polished base.

Hopefully the photos show enough detail. I've tried every trick in the book to get detailed photos of the canes at the bottom of the bowl.

Thanks,
Eric

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Re: ID help - millefiori bowl faceted with green overlay
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2014, 09:43:38 PM »
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Re: ID help - millefiori bowl faceted with green overlay
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2014, 10:27:13 AM »
Those spikey canes around the centre makes me think this is a Murano piece - let's see what other think !
Dave

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Re: ID help - millefiori bowl faceted with green overlay
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2014, 09:14:18 PM »
I'd have to say Perthshire.

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Re: ID help - millefiori bowl faceted with green overlay
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2014, 10:24:08 PM »
I agree with Perthshire Paperweights.

Many subtle colours, including hints of grey, and with very tidy "cogginess" in many of the canes.
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Re: ID help - millefiori bowl faceted with green overlay
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2014, 05:24:17 AM »
I've seen such dbl overlay cutting from Murano & those sure look like Murano canes.

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Re: ID help - millefiori bowl faceted with green overlay
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2014, 12:19:55 PM »
I have looked at this again and it definitely looks like Murano to me. I have loads of Perthshire canes and a lot of their weights but none have canes like these. Only Murano made those spikey canes around the centre - so I have placed my bet !!
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Re: ID help - millefiori bowl faceted with green overlay
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2014, 02:19:36 PM »
Only Murano made those spiky canes around the centre ...
Hi Dave,
I'm not going to place any bets ::).
I assume you are talking about the first ring of canes around the complex central canes - the ones with 20 spikes - correct?
If you have a look on page 162 of the Mahoney&McClanahan book there is an image of a P1989G as an example for complex Perthshire canes - including several spiky canes: I have not counted all of them, but all the ones I have counted have 20 spikes. Now - this does not contradict Murano (also using canes with 20 spikes frequently) - but IMHO doesn't contradict Perthshire either.
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Re: ID help - millefiori bowl faceted with green overlay
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2014, 10:48:19 AM »
Hi Wuff
Thanks for your very pertinent comments - at least it is only a two horse race and this bowl is either Perthshire or Murano. The only thing I am thinking now is if it is Perthshire - why no P cane as they seemed to sign virtually everything the made after the early years
Dave

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Re: ID help - millefiori bowl faceted with green overlay
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2014, 10:18:44 PM »
Thank you all for your input.

I agree that the piece shares many qualities with both Murano and Perthshire and I'll admit I was very apprehensive in pulling the trigger on this one. I went back on forth for a long time but in the end I couldn't get over the complexity of the center cane.

To Dave's concern I would point to unsigned "eBay item number:121465120908" - which shares many characteristics to this bowl.
- Pinned here for future reference: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/446630488020021701/

Excluding my vote we are at tied 2-2.  Anyone else?

-Eric

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