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Author Topic: ID on red bowl with aventurine. thanks. ID = Monart shape ZA  (Read 1612 times)

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ID on red bowl with aventurine. thanks. ID = Monart shape ZA
« on: November 07, 2014, 05:02:36 PM »
Hi, Does anyone have any ideas on this bowl?  IT has got some aventurine in it.  Very grateful if you can id it.  ;D

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Re: ID on red bowl with aventurine. thanks
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2014, 05:34:34 PM »
Possibly Monart? A bit hard to tell from your pics, which don't enlarge too much to see detail in the whole thing. I think you need one of the folk who really know Ysart glass to tell you more.
It doesn't have a "button" over the pontil scar, and the splodges look a little too round for my liking on the image of the base, which makes me fret a bit that it might be related to what is called "Cellophane Glass", or be by some other "Scottish Maker" who had been familiar with the Ysart's work, or had trained with them and then worked elsewhere.
Lovely thing though, whatever it is. :)
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Re: ID on red bowl with aventurine. thanks
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2014, 05:38:10 PM »
That would be cool if it is Monart  :)

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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2014, 05:40:57 PM »
Have you checked Scotland's Glass and the Ysart catalogues there?
You'll find the links in Frank's profile.
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Re: ID on red bowl with aventurine. thanks
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2014, 05:41:52 PM »
No I havent Ill try that thanks

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Re: ID on red bowl with aventurine. thanks
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2014, 05:42:36 PM »
Have you checked Scotland's Glass and the Ysart catalogues there?
You'll find the links in Frank's profile, but I've tracked it down for you.

http://ysartglass.com/


AAARGGGHHH we're cross-posting - and I've edited too, AND this post got duplicated while I was searching.
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Re: ID on red bowl with aventurine. thanks
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2014, 05:44:55 PM »
Cheers, I wonder if its cellophane glass or if it is someone who has tried to do a copy of monart.  It isnt a button shape on the pontil.

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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2014, 05:50:25 PM »
On Monart, what is called the "button" pontil mark consists of a round blob of glass being put over the scar where the break occurred and then flattened and polished to make a place for the labels.

This wasn't done on some of the earlier Monart, and can depend on the construction of the actual piece whether or not it was practicable to put the blob on without damaging or compromising it.

Cellophane glass tends not to be opaque - hence the name Frank invented for it, because we are still clueless about its manufacturer, we just strongly suspect Czech.
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Re: ID on red bowl with aventurine. thanks
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2014, 08:11:49 PM »
Hi,
My instinct says probably Czech - is the glass quite thick?

Could you put a bigger picture up - you can post up to 125KB
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2014, 08:20:35 PM »
No its not thick, i have some Vasart pieces and its same thickness as them.  I have cellophane glass and its no where near as thick. I think you might be right at czech.  I will put some better pics up.

 

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