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etched wine glass id help
« on: November 10, 2014, 10:22:56 PM »
hi guys
i dont know much about this glass apart from i bought it at either a charity shop or carboot sale a good few years ago
its 11cm high and 6 cm across the base/cup the etched monogram looks like two A or a W their are laurels tied with a bow on
the base etched on the side is two flags and the other side is a coat of arms which reads "domini dirige nos" no idea what it says the stem and cup base has been cut not sure of the type of cut it is
i hope i have described it well enough any help with any part of the etched images would be great :)
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Re: etched wine glass id help
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2014, 10:25:22 PM »
some other images
also i forgot to ask if its possible to know how old it maybe
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Re: etched wine glass id help
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2014, 10:38:42 PM »
The motto is part of the City of London emblem/badge. Might be a place to start. The crown does bear a resemblance to the 'Crown' The glass I am sure Paul S or many more knowledgeable people on here can give an age for. I could only say c1900. It very nice and is worth looking further into. I can only guess that the initials and bow etc could be a marriage. Maybe royal connection. Just thinking out loud at this point 😏
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Re: etched wine glass id help
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2014, 10:41:46 PM »
Thanks pete
will give google a whirl and see where
we get
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Re: etched wine glass id help
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2014, 04:53:33 PM »
Hi guys
just had a reply from the city of london museum and turns out the glass is from a set used at a banquet for the king and queen of italy 1909 also its hand engraved and not etched so a surprising outcome and it was a look away from the recycling bin (PHEW!!!)
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Re: etched wine glass id help
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2014, 09:54:07 PM »
Hi guys
ive got my fingers crossed that someone might be able to point me in the right direction
regards possible craftsmen in 1909 era who were well known for the hand engraveing
been on google with mixed results :(
Didnt realise the hours of researching for answers would take :-\
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Re: etched wine glass id help
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2014, 11:49:04 PM »
Hi
these are lovely glasses.  I'm desperate to see more detail in the engraving etc and the bottom of the foot.
Is it possible for you to take pictures without artificial lighting in daylight and against a black or plain white background to show off the detail please?  And could you load them at 400 x 600 pixels which should enable them to enlarge to see the decoration clearly.
Thanks so much if you have time to do this.  It might also help with establishing a maker and engraver as perhaps someone will recognise the design and cut stem etc.

thanks :)
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Re: etched wine glass id help
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2014, 07:04:21 PM »
Hi guys
i think ive taken improved images thanks to some advice also in the meantime i have emailed the city of the london archive for some info
(fingers crossed) also a couple of auction estimates not sure if they are realistic or not one was 120-150 and 250-350 they look high to me
anyway hope these show more detail
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Re: etched wine glass id help
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2014, 07:07:48 PM »
two more images
they have all been taken by phone camera so probably not great :)
i still not found any info on hand engravers at the time
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Re: etched wine glass id help
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2014, 08:26:41 PM »
All engraving of this type is hand done, certainly pre-computers, as was the cutting. The glass could have been made by any of the English crystal makers of the time, and by that I mean companies. Few individuals were named. It could even be Scottish or Continental but I suspect English is more likely. If you can match the shape, you may have your answer; it's probably only engraving that was commissioned. I might start with Whitefriars

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