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Offline Ohio

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French or Bohemian? Trinket/Ring Box
« on: November 16, 2014, 04:03:37 PM »
Picked this up the other day & not certain if its French or Bohemian so I welcome all suggestions. I believe it’s a trinket or ring box as its dimensions are rather small, height & length are both 3 1/8” while width is 2 1/8”.  Cutting is very small & am not getting results for written wording on the lid as I must be substituting a wrong letter somewhere along the line. Thanks for the help. Ken

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Re: French or Bohemian? Trinket/Ring Box
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2014, 04:23:01 PM »
Hi Ken,
Think the last word reads 'Baden', so German/Bohemian I would presume. Here's another variation.....

http://www.rubylane.com/item/262281-BX-1424/Antique-19c-Bohemian-Ruby-Glass-Cut

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Re: French or Bohemian? Trinket/Ring Box
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2014, 04:30:16 PM »
is it Schloss Eberstein?
http://www.antique-prints.de/shop/catalog.php?cat=KAT15&product=P012758&sid8C7206B11AE9452E813C63DC513C7BDE=ef066def666423344e5dcf8e87501e2d

1850 engraving print here
Schloss Eberstein Bei Baden Baden P012758
Germany. Original steel engraving, engraved by H. Emden after H. Schönfeld. ca 1850. Good condition. Hand-coloured. 15,5x10,5cm. Matted.

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Re: French or Bohemian? Trinket/Ring Box
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2014, 02:36:18 AM »
Greg. thanks for the link...looks as if its German, the RL pricing seems a bit optimistic as mine was approx 10% of that. M the print is at least in the ballpark as far as resemblance goes so thanks for the lead.  Ken.

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Re: French or Bohemian? Trinket/Ring Box
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 07:43:09 AM »
Ken, I'm sure it is a souvenir from Schloss Eberstein.  What's amazing is that the engraving (mid 1800's) and the box both have the castle from the same angle. 
It might be interesting to look at  current pictures and older pictures of Schloss Eberstein to see if you can date the box  more closely than '19th century' if the building has changed over time. Perhaps 1850 is when the box was made as the depiction is very similar to the engraving.
Very pretty box and very good price :)
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Re: French or Bohemian? Trinket/Ring Box
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 07:46:30 AM »
Près = Bei in German - so the titles match.
Date wise,  think Franco-Prussian war.

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Re: French or Bohemian? Trinket/Ring Box
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 06:49:06 PM »
M I found only a couple of of photos, however it has not changed dramatically just a few subtle ungrades/renovations which is suprising although a bit expected since its a tourist type compound. Cannot believe you were able to recognize it as there must be numerous facilities in Germany much like this one...thanks again for your help. This one I'll keep since its a somewhat early example of a European vanity item. Goes well with a couple of pieces of Palais Royale figural perfume sets I've kept.

Ivo thanks for the circa dating, appreciate the assistance & effort. Ken

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Re: French or Bohemian? Trinket/Ring Box
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2014, 10:13:54 PM »
From the Karkonoskie Museum -
a photo showing some red overlay trinket boxes - I think the label says made by Gräflich Schaffgotsche Josephinenhütte c.1850.
Obviously not identical to yours but nice to see some in a museum - also, check out the cameo work dated to the same period, on the tankard and the picture - amazing stuff.
http://www.przewodniksudecki.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/IMGP7711.jpg
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Re: French or Bohemian? Trinket/Ring Box
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2014, 04:03:36 PM »
Thanks M. All those pieces are superb & that type of workmanship is something we probably will never see again. 

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