Topic: Webbs? Pink to white posy vase help please

[brucebanner]

Can any body help me with this please I'm thinking it might be Webbs or Stevens and Williams, nice polished pontil with some base wear, I'm also unsure of age.

6 inches in length, 2 1/2 inches in height and across the base.

[glassobsessed]

Could it be Stevens and Williams Alabaster? Not so sure myself but worth a look I reckon.

John

[David E]

Vasart?

Edit: Probably not - much thinner and more refined!

[glassobsessed]

Funnily enough that was my first thought.

[orangeglass]

Definitely not Vasart, but I also thought S&W - it reminds me a little of the Elwell pieces, some of which were made by S&W, though I'm not saying this is an Elwells piece ! 

[chriscooper]

Could it be Nazeing ?

[Paul S.]

my first thoughts would also have been S. & W. rose alabaster, although not aware of this sort of graduated colouring in S. & W. pieces - so I'd plump for this not being theirs.
Although Nazeing did do a posy vase with this type of 'pinched in' rim, the rest of this piece doesn't match with theirs, and can't find any other Nazeing shape, in the book, that is similar.
Purely as an uneducated guess, this colourway doesn't ring any bells with any Elwell material I've seen, but not really my area.

Must confess my ignorance in that I didn't know that S. & W. made pieces for Elwell  -  Roberta, are you able to point me in the direction of any images  -  would be interested to see some of those pieces.
Geoff. Timberlake's book comments that "One of his daughters stated that he also bought from Gary Stan, Whitefriars, Stuart, Thomas Webb and Czechoslovakian factories".

[orangeglass]

hi Paul,
Nigel Benson seems to be the man who knows most about this, but there are plenty of snippets on this board (try searching Elwell) but this one mentions the S&W / Elwell link:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,41369.30.html

I'm sure somewhere there are pictures on here but haven't had time to find them 

[Paul S.]

thanks Roberta - I'd certainly agree that Nigel knows as much as anyone about Nazeing/Elwell pieces, and I was certainly unaware of the discussion re Stephen and Nigel etc., as shown in your link  -  I'd guess that this information is fairly recent and not perhaps widely known outside of specialist collectors/researchers.
Geoff. Timberlake's book was published in 2003, and provides only a small amount of information about Elwell.

Looking again at the glass surface within what we'd assume is the ground/polished pontil area, it looks not to have been ground  -  it seems to have a less than mirror like finish.
My S. & W. pieces appear to sit on the rim immediately surrounding the pontil depression.

My own opinion is that this piece is more recent.

[brucebanner]

Thanks for your help on this one, I have taken a better pic of the base, looking at the rim edge there is a less wear than I first thought, the inner domed base has marks running in several different directions.