Thanks john i will see if i can email them a pic, the English link on the web site site does not translate either, i think these have been used as oil lamps there is a lot of residue around the inner upper surface, looks like the style of glass has been used for centuries, i'm resided with the fact that a lot of glass is very tricky to atribute to anyone and you need to love it for what it is, regardless of age or maker, although my gut feeling is these are Victorian.