Topic: Continental glsss

[Antwerp1954]

I've just bought this in an auction. The auction house describe it as Continental 18th century. My best guess is Saxony c.1750. Does anyone agree or have other thoughts? Any idea on the monogram?

[flying free]

is it maybe a Spanish crown?
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[Paul S.]

it appears to show an H followed by reversed interlocking Cs finishing with another H............    but it's perfectly symmetrical whichever way it's viewed.............   so not really sure what it represents

[oldglassman]

Hi ,
             it could be F or S   C H

cheers ,
         Peter.

[Antwerp1954]

Thanks Peter. I used some tracing paper and copied out only half of the monogram and it's more like H then F orT, followed by C. As I believe it is Saxon c. 1750 this might be Herzog (Duke) Frederick Christian who was Elector of Saxony for a few months in 1763 but who lived from 1722-63. The crown is not that of the elector, I believe, but perhaps a ducal crown.

[MatW]

Hi, the crown lools to me more like a "Grafenkrone", the crown of a count.
Mat

[pamela]

Not sure about the F, but in "French Script MT" I see H F G H

 

[Antwerp1954]

The crown, as suggested by MatW, is indeed that of a lower nobleman. I'm convinced the glass dates from 1730-50 and made in Saxony. As to the initials, Dr Fischer Auktionshaus, reckon they are JGH. Any ideas who?

[MatW]

I think it will be difficult to find out who is behind the monogram, as there were many, many lower noblemen. However, the only "Graf" with the initials JGH I could find doing quick search is Johann Georg Heinrich von Werthern (1735-1790). His familys castle was in Beichlingen in Thuringia, which is next to Saxony. ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Georg_Heinrich_von_Werthern ) I could not find his monogram anywhere, and I have no idea how you could confirm if it is him or not.
Mat

[Antwerp1954]

Mat, many thanks. Where did you go to find that potential candidate. What if it was FGH?