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Author Topic: Please help identify this "not so early" APG? cow lidded butter dish  (Read 860 times)

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Offline nick.a

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I picked up this butter dish at a local car boot sale, knowing it was likely to be recent as it has minimal base wear. Read the available info. on supposed Heisey copies from Taiwan ( It doesn't have the H lozenge), have also seen them described as L.G. Wright, L.E. Smith and Westmoreland and seen them in various colourways including Royal Blue, Pink, Clear, Frosted, Jade Blue Slag, Purple slag and Blue Milk. I'm hoping one of our American experts ( Please Ken ;)) might be able to shed some light on it's origins.
Any pointers gratefully received.
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Re: Please help identify this "not so early" APG? cow lidded butter dish
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2015, 02:53:38 PM »
Nick yours is in all probability from Taiwan because of the plain base design & they eliminated the diamond H from the mold years ago. These are/were imported into the U.S. by AA Imports St. Louis for many years but show up everywhere worldwide as they are a favorite for importers. The U.S. ones that were Wright differ because of their basketweave base & were from an old mold. Smith made some using the same old mold mostly in slag & these were ordered primarily for a U.S. wholesaler. The Westmorland one is very different, squat (very low base height) &  base design also larger & more oval.

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Re: Please help identify this "not so early" APG? cow lidded butter dish
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2015, 03:04:53 PM »
Thanks Ken,
Once again I'm in awe at the breadth of your knowledge. I paid flumpence for it, expecting very little as it's clearly not old, so no disappointments. It's still a pleasant enough decorative item with a very traditional feel for something made yesterday in Taiwan.
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Re: Please help identify this "not so early" APG? cow lidded butter dish
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2015, 06:38:33 PM »
Another contender is Zabkowice, Poland 1910 item 2211   :D

I've got one of these - with a pig on the lid, and the quality looks as if made yesterday.
You may be interested to see the base of mine for comparison.
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Re: Please help identify this "not so early" APG? cow lidded butter dish
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2015, 09:21:45 AM »
Thank you Pamela that's a fantastic find, I did look for it on your Pressglas site but was distracted by the proliferation of postings originating from the U.S. and forgot to look in Masterbuchs.
 As Ken says It seems most likely that you've found the origin of the design and I would be more than happy to think that I have an original item, but am sceptical because of the crisp nature of the base and lid rim areas. It's always possible that this was kept purely for decoration though, and I haven't seen another green version so far. As they say, 'the jury's out'.
As a novice pressed glass enthusiast, I'd very much like to take this chance thank you for your work on Pressglas and Masterbuchs and for making them freely available. I can't stress enough what important and fascinating resources they are.


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Re: Please help identify this "not so early" APG? cow lidded butter dish
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2015, 10:43:37 AM »
How you shone a UV light on it? I think Zabkowice green may be uranium, which would certainly give you an era for yours

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Re: Please help identify this "not so early" APG? cow lidded butter dish
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2015, 10:52:40 AM »
Thanks Christine,
Should have thought of that. Having done so, I'm sure the people of Taiwan are very proud of it ;)

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Re: Please help identify this "not so early" APG? cow lidded butter dish
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2015, 10:58:44 AM »
I could be wrong, so don't assume. Most of the repros seem to be made for the USA, as that is where the market is but companies like Zabovice did export to the UK

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Re: Please help identify this "not so early" APG? cow lidded butter dish
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2015, 11:11:44 AM »
It's all part of what makes collecting so fascinating. The thrill of the initial find and the unwrapping of the history with all the enigmas, puzzles and quandaries along the way. Those of you with a wealth of experience at this still seem to face some of the same difficulties. There's so much to learn and so much still unknown/unrevealed, I didn't realise I'd enjoy it so much.

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