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Author Topic: Large Uranium Plate, Saw-Tooth Rim, Enamel Decorated  (Read 1579 times)

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Offline David E

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Large Uranium Plate, Saw-Tooth Rim, Enamel Decorated
« on: June 13, 2015, 12:10:07 PM »
I purchased this plate recently, and would like help with an ID, please.

It measures up to 10½in (27cm) in diameter, 3¼in (8cm) high, with the rim shaped in a saw-tooth. Ground pontil mark. Uranium glass upper, with opal underneath and a silk finish, so I assume acid-dipped. A really decorative amber enamel floral decoration was then applied that appears to be hand-painted.

It may have been a flower bowl with a centre figure, as the centre is quite deep.

Any help much appreciated.
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Re: Large Uranium Plate, Saw-Tooth Rim, Enamel Decorated
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2015, 01:05:14 PM »
Is it undamaged?
I can't believe something with so many sharp corners has survived intact for the length of time this must have been around. :o

Could it be an underplate of some sort? There is a deep well in the bottom that could take something - although it is decorated. ???
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Re: Large Uranium Plate, Saw-Tooth Rim, Enamel Decorated
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2015, 01:16:46 PM »
Well if it were over here in the U.S. we would call it a relatively typical Brides Basket Bowl. Here are a couple I have intact. The bowls & baskets were as a rule easily separated from one another over the years.

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Re: Large Uranium Plate, Saw-Tooth Rim, Enamel Decorated
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2015, 01:35:59 PM »
Sue: Surprisingly it is undamaged (and purchased from house clearers to boot!  ::) ), although there is a slight water stain visible in the photo, but this appears to remove quite easily. On the underside there are some small black rub marks - not sure what made those but probably irreversible. As I mentioned in the OP, I do think a centrepiece was an original fitment at some time.

Ken: Thanks for that - never heard the term before. The style is similar though, so I wonder if it is US-based?
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Re: Large Uranium Plate, Saw-Tooth Rim, Enamel Decorated
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2015, 01:49:56 PM »
I'm imagining it being used for dumping a bouquet or posy on during a wedding, for the wait between carrying it down the aisle and chucking it backwards over their heads to the crowd on leaving, but I've never heard of "Bride's baskets" before.
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Re: Large Uranium Plate, Saw-Tooth Rim, Enamel Decorated
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2015, 03:38:25 PM »
Almost certainly Bohemian

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Re: Large Uranium Plate, Saw-Tooth Rim, Enamel Decorated
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2015, 03:52:40 PM »
Thanks Christine – late-19th century then, I presume?
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Re: Large Uranium Plate, Saw-Tooth Rim, Enamel Decorated
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2015, 04:00:37 PM »
I would say so

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Re: Large Uranium Plate, Saw-Tooth Rim, Enamel Decorated
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2015, 08:47:34 PM »
Sue, my experience is that these frilled bowls are always found intact. Due to the manufacturing process there is so much tension (?) in the glass itself so that the lightest stress crack or damage destroys the item completely...  :'(
I should appreciate to hear other opinions - who has seen a damaged frilled bowl?
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Re: Large Uranium Plate, Saw-Tooth Rim, Enamel Decorated
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2015, 11:22:12 PM »
Why decorate the centre so lovely and cover it up with something else, does not make sense, no good for hyacinths though ;)
Ive sold two non decorated bowls the same crazy frilled edge both in good nick no damage in opaline glass, i should start keeping the pics really. I thought brides baskets were the crowned things money was placed in at a wedding?
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