Topic: For Pamela; Radeberg? Fenne? (very frilly plate)

[chopin-liszt]

On another thread, our Pamela posted images of a couple of pieces (one attributed to Fenne, the other to Radeberg) to illustrate a double combing technique used to produce a very angular and busily crimped frilly rim on some plates.
Much to my surprise, one of them appeared to be a version of something I found recently.

However, I'm still not sure about the attribution. The piece has been pressed initially, and then further hot worked to frill-ilise the rim and turn it into a square shaped bowl.
The pattern pressed into it matches the Radeberg plate, and the pattern on the Radeberg base is the same.

The pattern also seems to be the same on the Fenne piece, just the base is completely different, and the Fenne piece is opalescent, at least at the edges.
I've tried searching for Radeberg, but drowned in an excess of beer glasses and adverts.
Can you throw me a lifebelt, Pamela? 

[chopin-liszt]

More images.

This is a link to the Radberg image Pamela posted, showing the double combed rim
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/02349.html

and this is one for the Fenne, showing a singly combed rim.
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/03232.html

[pamela]

Sue, yours is definitely Radeberg - this pattern is pictured as part of a centerpiece # 169 in their 1897 catalogue which unfortunately is not completely online on Pressglas-Korrespondenz.

Radeberg's STICKMUSTER (embroidery) leaves are slightly different to the Fenne EWALD heart-shaped leaves - here is the EWALD creamer showing it very clearly. Radeberg's leaves are a little more 'ornamental' at the side lines.

I try to load images of my blue and green Radeberg bowls below

 

[chopin-liszt]

 

Thank-you!
Is your green one uranium glass too?

It seems that my green plate has only the "first" combing, while yours has only the "second" combing!
And would you like me to send you my original photos for your records?

[chopin-liszt]

I was wondering if you would like this plate for your museum, Pamela? (rather than only copies of my photos, which would not be consistent with the way you like things done)
If you would, can I keep hold of it until September so Christine can see and photograph it first (to photograph it the way that is right for her records).
Then I would be very happy to send it on. It appears to be a shape you are missing and it would be lovely to have found a "missing link" and put it in its proper place - your museum.