Topic: I.d. help please, are these gold threaded cranberry plates by Stevens & Williams

[nick.a]

Hi,
I found these plates recently in another charity shop, and am hoping that someone can I.d. them. They appear familiar to the many pictures on the net of ice/dessert plates/ finger bowl underplates attributed to Stevens & Williams. Any information always gratefully received.
Kind Regards
Nick

[chopin-liszt]

Any chance of pics with a white background, please? I really can't make out what colours are there.
Is it just reflections or is it lustred?

thanks.

[nick.a]

Hi Sue,
Thanks for looking. Sorry about the pics, I'm a collector of mostly flint/clear glass and have got into the habit of taking photos with a black background. I hope that these are more helpful.
Kind regards
Nick

[Lustrousstone]

They are probably English but Internet attributions of Stevens and Williams tend to be a bit suspect, especially when originating from the US - it's go-to attribution. They may be, I don't know

[nick.a]

Thanks Christine, I guess that any I.d. of glass that doesn't have a distinct style, pattern, signature or label will always be a bit of a qualified guess. Generally the qualifications of the average person on the net being so much poorer than those on here.
In your opinion would you say the plates were late Victorian? They are rather delicate so I'm not sure that they had a practical use.(No loss of threading and minimal signs of wear)
Kind regards
Nick

[keith]

Thought I'd put my pennyworth in, wear  is not always something to go on for ageing a piece, as to the shape I did read somewhere that those 'square' finishes your bowl has was common to one of the Stourbridge makers, which one I cannot remember, sorry.

[Lustrousstone]

Yes, late Victorian is likely. I suspect they are underplates for finger bowls or something similar. They are probably lead crystal too

[nick.a]

Hi Christine & Keith,
Thank you both for sharing your expertise. I'll take late Victorian Stourbridge (probably), any day.
My pity for Victorian servants has increased, I'd break something as delicate as these in the blink of an eye, clumsy clutz that I am.
Best regards
Nick