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Author Topic: Salviati enamelled girasol goblet  (Read 3272 times)

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Salviati enamelled girasol goblet
« on: September 08, 2015, 08:39:25 AM »
A nice example of a girasol goblet with enamelled decoration, late 19th century, lots of opalescence. Hollow stem with folded foot, snapped marks on the base and at the bottom of the bowl, 11 cm tall.

Does anyone know if this kind of bowl shape has a name?

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Re: Salviati enamelled girasol goblet
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2015, 03:41:03 PM »
Sorry, can't help, but it is lovely! :)

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Re: Salviati enamelled girasol goblet
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2015, 04:57:01 PM »
I'm waiting for flying-free to comment, so far succeeding in not drenching my keyboard with drool.

I've looked up girasol - it refers to the fire in the opalesence; or it's a jerusalem artichoke;
but an images search just came up with tons of sunflowers... ;D
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Re: Salviati enamelled girasol goblet
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2015, 07:06:40 PM »
Sorry Sue, girasol is the Italian for sunflower but also the term they use to describe milky white opalescent glass.

Also, I am confident this was made by/for Salviati as there is a blue version with a similar shape (four bulges instead of eight) and more importantly the exact same enamel band, it is shown on page 16 of Exquisite Glass Ornaments, edited by Rosa Barovier Mentasti.

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Re: Salviati enamelled girasol goblet
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2015, 07:16:32 PM »
I was just getting myself ready to understand what might be said. I'm settling in to this thread, ready to learn.

It's quite something, isn't it? Folded foot too! 8)
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Re: Salviati enamelled girasol goblet
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2015, 08:15:20 PM »
That's really pretty - gorgeous enamelling, a mix of the traditional beading with something more contemporary.  Really unusual.  There isn't anything with enamelling like that in the Barr book. 

Sue according to the Museo del Vetro re Girasol glass '...This glass is slightly opaque due to the presence of lead hydrogen arsenate crystals in the glassmaking mixture...'

I've not got to the bottom of what I'm trying to research but as far as I can tell (don't quote me), Girasol glass seems to have been popular during the 1600s  and first 10 years of 1700s ish, then a 150 year gap  and then popular again from 1860 ish.  It's considered dichroic glass because it changes colour depending on whether the light is reflecting off it of being transmitted through it.
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Re: Salviati enamelled girasol goblet
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2015, 12:02:16 PM »
Is there any real difference between what is called girasol and what I would call (generically) opalescent?
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Re: Salviati enamelled girasol goblet
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2015, 11:30:06 AM »
girasol is .... the term they use to describe milky white opalescent glass.

There should be a rule about quoting yourself!

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Re: Salviati enamelled girasol goblet
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2015, 11:49:14 AM »
 ;D
I don't know - my Grandpa used to talk to himself and whenever he was criticised for doing so, he would reply; "I can't think of anybody better to be talking to." :)
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Re: Salviati enamelled girasol goblet
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2015, 02:33:24 PM »
Of the two types of opalescent glass, the one made with bone ash shines through fiery while the later one made with arsenic does not.
It looks as if this piece is indeed by Salviati from the 1890-1910 period.
 

 

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