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Whitefriars production colours
TomB:
Hi. I'm new to this stuff but have a large collection of Baxter designs. I can't seem to find any research linking colours and the number of vases made in that colourway. For instance I have collectors claiming the indigo Banjo vase was only made a total of 78 times, then another claiming 600 times and another for 213! Is there a log available, either on-line or in a museum? Tom
Paul S.:
Hello Tom - welcome to the GMB
For someone who is new, it sounds as though you've done very well in forming a large collection of Baxter designs. Are you suggesting this information is available somewhere in archive form - though present whereabouts unknown - or is it more the case that you wish it was as this would be an interesting aspect to collectors. Do you know if those collectors making claims as to numbers made, in certain colours, have some form of provenance to support their claims? I'd suggest that people making such comments should at least have made some research to substantiate this info - have you asked these collectors for the source of their information?
I know less than nothing about this particular side of Baxter's output, and could be very wrong, but would have thought it possibly unlikely that the archives for such designs - assuming there are such things as accessible extant archives - might have included such detailed accurate data made at the time of production.
Now watch someone tell me I'm wrong ;)
glassobsessed:
The information came from the workbooks at the factory, each blowers output was recorded, including both shape and colour. I think at least some of that information was available on whitefriars.com which is now no longer functioning. Don't know if any of it is available on whitefriars.org but may be worth asking there. Alternatively look for Whitefriars collectors groups on facebook and ask.
John
Paul S.:
thanks John - is it known what happened to the factory 'workbooks' you mention?
glassobsessed:
You need a 'Friars aficionado for such questions Paul rather than me! I do remember seeing a photograph of a page from one though, it listed how many of a particular pattern number were made on a given day and in which colour.
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