Topic: Whitefriars Powell ? sky blue prunted vase? help please.

[brucebanner]

Any thoughts on this one, full of bubbles, no lead crystal ring and a folded foot with base wear, it looks very similar to the decanter on page 64 of Leslie Jacksons Whitefriars book.

4 3/4 inches in height, 5 1/2 inches at the widest diameter and 4 1/2 inches across the base.

regards Chris.

[WhatHo!]

Has it got a snapped off pontil up in the base?

[WhatHo!]

Harry Powells 'Glasses with Histories' has a near identical piece which is numbered 1344, its from the German, Flemish and Dutch glass section, which are drawings taken from museum pieces in 1904. But with these streams of bubbles I  think it can not be Powell, maybe its an old Germanic piece, also the colour doesn't strike me as German and I would expect to see a snapped pontil in the base. The base to my eye bulges down and looks more modern.

[brucebanner]

No snapped pontil, the inner base bulges outwards, and the inner bowl upwards, definitely bubbles they look like tiny overshot particles, they form dimples and tiny bumps on the outer and inner surface, more so on the upper bowl than the foot.

If it's in the Powell book (which it looks like i'm going to have to get a copy of) it's either by Powell or a modern copy.

Here is a closer pick of the surface and the base rim which feels well worn to the touch.

Thanks for your help i really appreciate it.

[WhatHo!]

Hi Bruce, I will send you a pic of the line drawing taken from the MOL book, i wont be allowed to show it here. The pat No 1344 I can not find a drawings or photos off in all my research notes, so I dont what it should exactly look like. But what ever, with this bubbly glass it is not Powell, my feeling is considering the base and the glass it is modern Czech repro.

[brucebanner]

A good learning curve for everyone that reads this in the future, It makes you wonder how many other shapes are being copied.

[brucebanner]

A few weeks ago i put this piece on www.whitefriars.com on the forum, a global mod has got back to me today and has said it's by Harry Powell and dates between 1903-10, the reason it's not lead crystal is because its soda glass and the colour called alsation blue. He has put another piece same size and style on there, I'm just waiting for permission to link the two together.

[WhatHo!]

Yes I know Steve. I might well be wrong but I am still concerned about the quality of the glass and the base is finished. Although Alsatian Blue is a soda glass it would not full of streams of bubbles.
http://www.whitefriars.com/smf1/index.php/topic,5825.0.html

[johnphilip]

Chris i have known Steve for a lifetime and i dont believe in experts but Steve is the nearest you will get , especially on Powell glass .  To doubt him is like saying the All  Blacks cant play Rugby . imho .
Must say i thought it was right also  , just a gut feeling for me .

[WhatHo!]

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