Topic: Glass Vase Acid Stamp ID Help Needed

[Anne Tique]

I'm not going to pretend I've seen this mark before, but I had a look in the big blue book and on page 443 there's an image of a label from Joseph Riedel that looks similar, but nothing mentioned about a similar acid mark used later on ...

[flying free]

I think it might also be 'Riedel'
I found this
http://ces.mkcr.cz/cz/img/1/5/6/p73685.jpg


the description says
'Váza, foukané a hutně zdobené sklo, firma Josef Riedel Dolní Polubný, 1920-1930'

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[Lustrousstone]

I think that's it. Though the vase isn't cameo http://ces.mkcr.cz/cz/img/1/5/6/p73685.jpg

[flying free]

It's weird isn't it - I wonder if that linked vase is cased with the intercalaire decoration as per the original one on this thread.

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[Lustrousstone]

I'm sure it is

[pamela]

Had a look into C. Hartmann GlasmarkenLexikon and took a photo of image # 9070

Josef Riedel, Polaun

'Etikett' is engl. 'label'

Lit. 338 CMRW 1891 means source:
CENTRAL MARKEN REGISTER WIEN, from 1891 onwards

 

[Mod: Photo of Hartmann book entry removed. Erring on the side of caution, Hartmann "line drawings" might fall under copyright. Therefore board policy has been applied.]

[mitko07]

What can I say... You are absolutely amazing- I consider the ID of the mark solved- thanks so much!:)
It looks identical as color and style of the decoration with http://ces.mkcr.cz/cz/img/1/5/6/p73685.jpg
I was wondering if it is possible for Anne Tique to post a little bit more info on the paper label - like when it was used and a brief description/ scan if possible. It is always good news when another marking is identified
Regarding the decoration- At first I thought it is Japanese or Chinese influenced and now that I looked at the one flying free has found I am convinced that it has Chinese influence. Goggle "Chinese clouds" images and you will see the similarity
As for the technique used applying the decoration I am still intrigued and maybe someone with glass making experience can give a suggestion.
I don't think it  has been etched as cameo and then reheated so that the relief to sink even though it could be possible and makes sense ( I was thinking about it too) . The wall of the vase is too thin for cameo glass and there must be another technique used.  Reheating cameo glass to my knowledge  is usually done only for light surface polishing. I think reheating it this much will distort the borders of the decoration and probably produce a bulge to the inside. This was decorated still hot but how...
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[mitko07]

I am little bit confused - is it possible for someone to post a short biography of Josef Riedel or some hystory of Josef Riedel , Polaun glass
Thanks

[mitko07]

Had a look into C. Hartmann GlasmarkenLexikon and took a photo of image # 9070

Josef Riedel, Polaun

'Etikett' is engl. 'label'

Lit. 338 CMRW 1891 means source:
CENTRAL MARKEN REGISTER WIEN, from 1891 onwards

 

Thats a match ! Thanks for your time Pamela!:) is this a sketch of a paper label?

[Anne Tique]

The label I mentioned is the same illustration Pamela has posted, I wasn't sure I could use it here. The label's dated  but again, nothing mentioned about the acid version of this mark, unfortunately.