Topic: Bubbly green glass vase c1930's? Id help please.....

[Paul S.]

could be wrong, but to me this doesn't look like the green used by Walsh.                    There are two known factory backstamps, both showing upper case WALSH, except that one includes the word ENGLAND in a slightly curved position, and the presence of either is dependent apparently on the date of manufacture - although doubtless some overlap.    According to Reynolds book, the earlier mark doesn't include ENGLAND (1926 - c1930).           
Walsh marks are a pain to photograph at the best of times, and even when found are usually faint.           
There is a passable picture on my mustards which is minus ENGLAND, so assume this could be the earlier mark.          http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=60522.0;attach=177989;image

[Ivo]

Would you say this is bottle green? Anybody check Empoli verde?

[Paul S.]

ref. Keith's comments re the position of the Walsh backstamp, and which probably correct in the main regarding coloured wares  -  but would just  like to add to Keith's comments that with stemware the mark is often (but not exclusively) in the centre of the underside of the foot.                Since much Walsh stemware seems to have been produced with a machine finished underside to the foot, then any backstamp in the centre of the foot remains unaffected by either removing a pontil scar or subsequent fair wear tear.

[Dingledodger]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all your input - John, how the devil are you? : not a trace of uranium or any other UV reactive constituent in this glass...

Paul/Keith: if it is Walsh and there was ever a stamp on the outer edge of the foot then it has been obliterated from movement. Nothing anywhere else on the underside of foot either.

Empoli Verde a possibility then - that had not occurred to me but entirely possible I guess. Not sure if the green is right as I have no other pieces to compare with in the flesh. Always ambiguous on a computer screen I find. Are there any other typical Empoli Verde attributes to look for?

Cheers, Ben

[Dingledodger]

Ivo, I would go with bottle green yes.

[Ivo]

It's a wide field, lots of Murano workers worked their magic on bottle green glass. But they all seem to have this type of pontil mark.

[flying free]

Paul do you think the green looks a bit similar to the bowl on page 47 of Reynolds maybe?  That kind of bluey green?  I agree it doesn't' look like the green of the Pompeian range vases that are shown in the book.  I'm just wondering if that bluey green might have also been used maybe? 
The foot has some similarities with other feet used in the book - some similarities with those on the Pompeian but doesn't look quite the same somehow, just a slightly different thickness, curve at the edge of the foot and the angle of the shape not quite the same.  It has more similarities with the foot on the blue green Water Lily bowl.
I don't know about the pontil mark though.  Has anyone seen a Walsh Walsh piece with a ground but not polished pontil mark?
Keith, Paul, what do you think about the similarities?

Ben could you post your pictures resized to 600 x 400 pixels please?  That way they enlarge enough to see detail properly.  I'm struggling to compare the bubbles in your vase to the bubbles in other Walsh Walsh pieces and that could be a deciding factor.
Thanks

m

[Dingledodger]

Hi M,

Thanks for your help with this. Here's the resized pictures - I hope they're easier to see now....

Cheers, Ben

[Paul S.]

hello m  .........    would agree that the colour of this piece isn't too far removed from the colour of  the Walsh 'Iris' designs in Reynolds book.    Unfortunately, because one is a heavily bubbled lump and the other quite the opposite, the 'colour' we see is affected by the transmitted light - so this one with much air in the mix looks different to one with 100% glass.
Don't think I've ever seen 'Pompeian' in this shade of green, but anything is possibly I suppose, and as for the base depression I seem to recall that most 'Pompeian' has a reasonably well polished one.

Don't think I've a single piece of 'Pompeian' now  -  all gone back to the charity shops, and coloured glass was never really my thing.        Am sure  Keith and Christine are more clued up on such pieces

[keith]

More clueless I'm afraid, I bought about three other pieces I hoped were Walsh but turned out not to be , this one had a name on it, always easier