Topic: Help to identify a frosted Matt creamer and sugar bowl please?

[Bluebell17]

Hi all,

 I'm helping my dad clear the loft, and any collectibles are being sold to raise some cash for him. we came across this frosted creamer and sugar bowl, with a Lotus/waterlily shape on a metal  ring base.  All I know is it is pressed glass. There are no identifying marks to help us with a maker or year, can anyone help?

Many thanks
regards Dee

[Anne]

Hi Dee and welcome to the board. I don't know who made your set, but I have seen the bowls before in different colours as part of a fruit set - in fact I have somewhere the large bowl from such a set. I know we have discussed these before and no conclusion was reached, so unless someone has turned up new evidence we may be a bit stuck for now.  Datewise, I'd suspect 1950s because of the chrome stand, but it might be earlier or later.

[Bluebell17]

Hi Anne,

And thank you for the welcome to the forum.
I really appreciate your response to my query. I had exhausted the Internet looking for similar shapes and themes, but all to no avail. I don't suppose you have a picture somewhere of the bowl you mentioned? It would be interesting to see if my Dad recognises it.
I did think the pieces may have come from the Jeanette glass company, but I haven't found anything to back this up.
I think it may be a little earlier than the 50s as although it was in my parents loft, I think it came from grandmothers house.

Many thanks for your input

Dee 😀

[Anne]

Hi Dee, I sure have... they aren't brilliant pics as I took them yonks ago but hopefully they are clear enough to compare with.

[Anne]

Back again, I wonder if yours is Davidson? Although the frosted clear/white is unusual for them I think.... but there is a similarity with some bowls I found a reference image of lurking on my PC (with maker's label!), and there's another view of same item on the Davidson / Cloud Glass website here  as pattern 4074/1: http://www.cloudglass.com/Gallerypostwar.htm. It's an avenue to explore anyhow.

[Bluebell17]

Hi Anne,

Thank you so much for the pictures of your bowl, which do indeed bear some similarities to my sugar bowl and creamer. My Dad wasn't sure though, as it's been hidden away for so long he says he's having a hard time to recall the original. It won't help that we've gone through boxes and boxes of China and glass his head is full of my questions and stories relating to each piece.

The pictures you attached bear some further research. I'll keep looking until I can identify the maker...will post again if I strike it lucky 😀
Thank you for the lead for me to follow, but mainly for taking the time to respond.👍

Regards

Dee

[Anne]

Not a problem, Dee. I've also dropped Chris Stewart of the Davidson website a note to see if he can pop along to the board and take a look at yours for you. Fingers crossed he may have a few minutes to do so.

[Bluebell17]

Hi Anne,

Could they be by Bagley? They have shape and style similarities, I have also found a picture of the same items in uranium green....any thoughts?

Regards

Dee

[Anne]

Not as far as I'm aware, Dee. There is a very comprehensive book on Bagley Glass by the board's owner Angela Bowey that shows all known Bagley designs and yours are not included. The book is well-worth having if you collect or deal in pressed glass.

[Lustrousstone]

But what we don't know is what Bagley made as commissions to be sold under other brands; that sort of information would only be in order and/or work books.  As far as I recall no such things are mentioned in the books. I remain convinced this was made by Bagley; the colour is spot on (Bagley green uranium is quite a different shade to anyone else's) and the foot design appears on a Bagley bloom trough
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=112