Topic: Loetz - Is it correct or a fake?

[luttonlodge]

Hello
I am afraid that this is my first post, although a have spent many hours searching the answers to forum questions. Which have been extremely helpful.
I have recently been asked by a friend who is moving into a smaller house to sell some of her glass. Most of it is not worth a great deal but I will try and do my best with it.
But this piece I thought I immediately recognised as Loetz. However on searching the websites displaying Loetz glass, I have recognised the decor as Astglas, but the site displaying the Astglas does not list the any of the colourways as anything resembling this one.
I assume it therefore is a fake? Am I correct or could it still be genuine.
I also have not seen many lids on any of the Loetz glass.
If this is not genuine would anybody know who may have made it.
The other question is that there is very little damage to it except of course to the broken finial (a clean break). If it is genuine should I fix it myself or take to a glass restorer?

[glassobsessed]

Welcome to the forum luttonlodge.

That is not Astglas (which has a crackled effect) but it does look like Rusticana, with the base glass in green it gets called Crete Rusticana: http://www.loetz.com/decors-a-z/rusticana/crete-rusticana

It looks quite genuine, it seems Loetz made quite an extensive range of items in Rusticana no doubt because it was popular and sold well at the time.

John

[luttonlodge]

Thank you very much glassobsessed. That is good news now I have to find out the cost of repair.
Mike

[chopin-liszt]

If it really is a completely free break and fits properly, you might be as well trying to do the repair yourself.
You need to buy a good quality glass glue and a little UV torch for setting it.

It's not worth trying with "value" types of glass glue, you just make a mess.
The repair will affect any price quite dramatically, I'm afraid.

Welcome!

[luttonlodge]

Hello chopin-liszt

I read on-line somewhere that Loctite Glass Glue is the one to use. I do not know if there are better glass glues.
The break seem to be clean and the two parts apear to fit together well.
Mike

[chopin-liszt]

That's a fine one, it's just the real, pound-shop, cheapies that are useless.

It needs UV light to set, so make sure the surfaces are clean; dust and grease-free and just add one tiny drop of glue, press the surfaces together, clear up any "seepage" (I really can't take that word seriously since Kenny Everett's shows ) from around the break and turn the uv light on it.

UV torches are avialable very cheaply and they're handy things to have, you can check for uranium in glass, check if your cash notes are real or not and follow trails of mouse wee. (should you be so inclined)

[glassobsessed]

Place in direct sunshine and that should do the trick, should be enough UV after half an hour or so.

[chopin-liszt]

I'd forgotten sunshine exists... somewhere. 

[brucebanner]

Makes you wonder how many other vase looking objects  should have lids, must be a rare find complete. Wilkinsons own brand glass glue is a couple of quid, it does take some setting though with daylight but gives the chance to adjust to get a good fit and the excess glue cleans great without much effort. I would not use anything else myself, ive found a couple of things recently that have lids and without could be something else.
I wonder if the OP had a purpose other than decorative ?.

It's a good way of checking old damage on glass items as some glue joints glow under UV light, (it might just be uv glue though), I have a lovely old piece of glass that looks mint but in the dark, under UV has been glued twice.

[luttonlodge]

Thanks for all of your help.
I have a small UV torch.
But will wait for a sunny day, if we are getting anymore this year!