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Author Topic: Crizzled or sick glass uranium wine glass thoughts.  (Read 2601 times)

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Offline brucebanner

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Crizzled or sick glass uranium wine glass thoughts.
« on: October 22, 2016, 01:29:17 PM »
I have come across this several times (i think only in uranium glass so far), described as a bad batch of glass in real trouble of disintegrating, this one shown has a very rough almost flaking of the glass to the outer surface stem, foot and underside of foot with a rough texture. The inner bowl is unaffected lovely and smooth as is the decoration which is smooth with no crackling, i'm wondering if its a treatment that causes this problem?.

In UV the uranium is very patchy almost to the point you think it has rubbed or flaked off in places.

4 7/8th inches in height, 2 3/4 inches across the rim and 2 1/2 inches across the base.

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Re: crizzle or sick glass uranium wine glass thoughts.
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2016, 01:34:00 PM »
picture of the uranium.
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Re: Crizzled or sick glass uranium wine glass thoughts.
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2016, 03:28:23 PM »
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How very odd. I cannot imagine what might be giving rise to the appearance of uranium, which is physically in the glass, seeming to be "patchy".
If it's there, it will glow under UV and the glow will distort details in pics, it emanates from the thing.

Is it possible there could be something there absorbing the UV light? Dirt embedded in the cracks?
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Re: Crizzled or sick glass uranium wine glass thoughts.
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2016, 11:09:32 PM »
How is that pattern applied,  is it needle etched or something?
And how old do you think the glass is?

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Re: Crizzled or sick glass uranium wine glass thoughts.
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2016, 07:59:18 AM »
I would say the glass is late 1880's- 1900, its lost its lead crystal ring probably due to all the cracks, it looks like my photo's close up in real life so it's not the camera, i did have a blue mould blown vase with the same problem but it's been recycled, it was listed on Ebay but had not interest along with a uranium glass one probably 20 years older than this one, it does not explain why the bowl inner surface is fine, if it was a glass mixture problem the inner bowl should be falling apart as well.

I would say its wax etched not machine as machined is a lot clearer and uniform.

The third picture shows more defined machine etching.
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Re: Crizzled or sick glass uranium wine glass thoughts.
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2016, 09:25:04 AM »
so it has been coated? or cased?  and the cased glass layer was uranium glass but is the layer that is crizzling maybe?

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Re: Crizzled or sick glass uranium wine glass thoughts.
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2016, 10:51:50 AM »
I suspect the blue under UV is the alkali leaking out of the glass and blocking either the UV getting in or the emitted green rays getting. I don't think uranium glassware is ever coated, unlike ruby stuff. Storing the glass upside down with less contact with damp air probably explains where the crizzling has started.

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Re: Crizzled or sick glass uranium wine glass thoughts.
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2016, 11:56:42 AM »
Thank-you Your Editorialshipness,  8)
I was sure there had to be a logical explanation. It's been bothering me. :)

The pattern does look a bit like one of the more unusual ones from a series like the "Pall Mall" sort of decor of etching.
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Re: Crizzled or sick glass uranium wine glass thoughts.
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2016, 10:31:30 PM »
That's a much more probably explanation than mine Christine.  Very intriguing.
Would it have been a bad batch though to start with if it's started crizzling, but just that the interior was kept sheltered from attacks  on the surface?
Sue I was thinking of the 'Pall Mall' things as well. Possibly from a similar era perhaps?
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Re: Crizzled or sick glass uranium wine glass thoughts.
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2016, 06:16:20 AM »
Yes, it would have been a bad batch but damp air encourages crizzling

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