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Author Topic: This reminds a bit of Isle of Wight Summer Fruits or Meadow garden?  (Read 2138 times)

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282259086085?euid=dfbc6507aefc48adbbaca8c05015fd71&bu=43504863301&cp=1&sojTags=bu=bu

bit odd with the handle stuck on top but interested to know who might have made this please?

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Re: This reminds a bit of Isle of Wight Summer Fruits or Meadow garden?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2016, 08:54:10 PM »
 :)
I find the decor more reminiscent of Kosta than I do of IoWSG.
It stands more proud of the surface, it's random and artistic, not just "prettily arranged".
It looks old too.

tummy rumblings and gurglings only, m. ;D

I deny any responsibility for any identification.
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Re: This reminds a bit of Isle of Wight Summer Fruits or Meadow garden?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2016, 09:02:15 PM »
ha!  :-*  well we're on the same wavelength then as:
a) the first thing I noticed was that the glass actually looked quite old (has little black specks in that made me think of one of the Loetz decors
b) the second thing I did was look up Kosta
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and thank you for your observations on the difference in how the colour is marvered in.  I would not have known that.
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Re: This reminds a bit of Isle of Wight Summer Fruits or Meadow garden?
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2016, 06:46:18 PM »
I know they are completely different beasts but it reminds me of this type of thing

https://www.igavelauctions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/English-Victorian-Floret-Pedestal-Paperweight-and-Another-Paperweight-19th-Century.jpeg

https://www.igavelauctions.com/tag/online-auctions/

and it looks as though it could be old ...

However, it also looks to have a gold iridescence on it and also a gold swoosh around it - are those 'techniques' right for it being an old piece I'm wondering?

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Re: This reminds a bit of Isle of Wight Summer Fruits or Meadow garden?
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 07:10:08 PM »
Are you referring to the same pink ball on a stick thing in both links?

The door stop is surface decorated, i don't see many similarities at all, apart from perhaps, similar colours. Any "decor" effects in a cased piece are a bit different to surface decorated, I can't see any lustre in the ball on a stick.
But I don't have your very, very good eye for old stuff, m.

I just feel the door stop has some very good age. It is the black bits but it's the texture of the surface too, it's "rougher" than new stuff - because of the changes in the chemical composition of the metal being used, improving.
It's just a lot easier to produce "smooth looking" stuff now.
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Re: This reminds a bit of Isle of Wight Summer Fruits or Meadow garden?
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 07:56:59 PM »
Sue, you see what I see ... the texture of the surface is different to modern surface iridescent glass.

yes the similarity between this one and the one in those two links  is only in the speckles and the colour scheme used ... but they did use a lot of speckles in paperweights.
So, that got me thinking, that it's just a big paperweight right?  it's 18cm diameter so it is big, but possibly from a paperweight maker given the shape and the little handle.  They did apply metal handles to all sorts of paperweights made from such as marble and rare stones.  So no different to apply it to a glass weight.  It looks too artistic and goldy iridescent to be that early (i.e. Victorian era) but perhaps 1910s or 1920s I was thinking given the handle (if it were English), however, if it were say Swedish, then perhaps the handle might date even to the 30s/40s?

I've just been on the Faglaviks glass page and they did make flattened and what appear to be, large, weights ( it's difficult to tell on size as they don't describe their items):
http://www.faglaviksglas.se/gamlaglas/20070821_14.JPG


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Re: This reminds a bit of Isle of Wight Summer Fruits or Meadow garden?
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2016, 08:18:14 PM »
That is MUCH more like it.  ;D
Even the surface, and a slight golden lustre - and it's got the right sort of delicacy of touch in the workings of it.
Words can be such big and clumsy things to try to use to describe these really subtle, little things. ;)
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Re: This reminds a bit of Isle of Wight Summer Fruits or Meadow garden?
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2016, 08:48:58 PM »
I'll keep looking then.
I have to say (whispers because I think it's poor form to criticise glassmaking) ... I have never seen anything in that  collection that I've liked -  I think it's all awful, but that's probably because of the period perhaps. It just misses on the design element every single time.  Either the enamel design is horrid or the colours are horrid or it's on some hideous piece with a frilled rim and hard sheeny iridescence type thing. I suspect they made the matthey crinkles type lampshade in my grandma's hallway  :-X 
And I don't think this doorstop falls into that category? ... so perhaps Scandinavian is a possibility but maybe not them.
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Re: This reminds a bit of Isle of Wight Summer Fruits or Meadow garden?
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2016, 09:00:33 PM »
You don't need to whisper when it comes to being rude about anything matthey crinkly.  ;D
I had to use crinkled tumblers for my diluted squash when I was small and I hated the feel of them. The hatred transferred to diluted squash, both still make me shudder and cringe.

The tiny spots of colour on the weight there are beautifully co-ordinated, they've got movement... it's not my cup of tea, but it's got class.

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Re: This reminds a bit of Isle of Wight Summer Fruits or Meadow garden?
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2016, 11:00:59 PM »
eek,I hate them as well.
Will post if I find anything further to compare this with.

Thanks for your help and observations  :-*
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