Topic: please help id this blue opaline/ clear glass mini/small candlabre + shades pls?

[chriss]

 Hi hoping someone can give info on this mini glass candlabre, candles, blue opaline/milk glass shades and suspended prisms please? Each candle has a tiny flame and fine very thin blue opaline or milk glass shade which I'm surprised have lasted so well. The foot of the stand  is conical and all stems are twisted. There's a lot of age to this, the metal attachments on each of the lustres is very old and there's age related shelf ware to the base. It stands 9.5" tall to the upper flame of the top candle. No makers marks though. I think it's Victorian but I'm not 100% sure, it was in the family of an elderly lady that I bought from for quite a few generations, but she didn't know anything about it. Any info would be great please? Thanks 

[chriss]

Here's an extra photo showing the base thanks

[brucebanner]

Incredible that has survived in one piece, it reminds me of a couple of Billy swingewood pieces ive got from the 1930's.

[chriss]

Hi, thanks for your reply Victorian is a guesstimate as to me, it's a spin off from a mantle lustre which I believe were popular around then, and I know the victorians liked unusual quirky things and I'm pretty sure this falls into that category? I live in the midlands and the lady I purchased it from originally lived near Wolverhampton (I don't know where she lives now) which geographically isn't far from Dudley and Stourbridge area so that may be a possibility? 😀 Thanks again chriss

[flying free]

good shout Chris, here is a link to a photo of a Swingewood piece I think?  the birds?
The stand looks similar doesn't it?
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,51274.msg291571.html#msg291571

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[chriss]

Hi,
thanks flying free for the reply and link, I think the photos on that thread are from a newspaper story about Swingewood glass that was printed a few years ago? (I googled Brucebanners suggestion and that newspaper story came up) but I never realised there was a thread on here too thanks 😀 I've messaged that person to ask if he has any further info thanks 👍 The stand does look similar yes, but I can't make out if the photos in that show the base as flat or not as mine is a raised conical shape? There are a few other images on the internet of other Swingewood items too and I can see similarities in those too, but I've not found a raised foot or twisted stems or separate thin/fine glass detachable 'shades' yet?
Chris 

[SwingeyP]

Sorry It's not Swingewood 

I am Paul swingewood grandson of William Swingewood. I am currenlty developing a website that will hopefully help identify Swingewood Glass and it's history. --> http://www.swingewoodglass.org/


Your piece does appear to be Stevens & William though. Further research in the Stevens & Williams pattern books will prove it but that will be a task in itself. The books are (currently) housed at Himley House. They won't just let you thumb through them though. God knows i've asked so many times. You'll need an approximate date and start looking in the volumes of that year. I can't remember the name of the young woman who was in charge, she's now moved back to Scotland I believe. The whole archive is in a mess ready to be moved to the new glass museum opposite the black country museum if it ever gets built.

Have you looked in '20th century british glass charles hajdamach'? I had a quick look but didn't see anything. Charles is definitely your best bet. I think he still lives in the cottage in Collis Street Amblecote.

[brucebanner]

Look forward to the website and glass museum being finished, i thought it was the site opposite the cone that looks well on the way to being finished already?, i probably have more of your Grandads work but half the time it's unclear what i'm looking at, there is so little information available.

http://www.britishglassfoundation.org.uk/broadfield-house-collections/