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Etling catalogue - is it out there?
marcus:
Anne Tique - The only one that I know of (though I would assume that their could probably be others too???) is a 10" (approx.) "Tourbillons' pattern bowl. It's a darn shame, 'coz I lost the link on my old PC about one of the owners of Verlys, who at the time was 'in' with those at VSL (and/or) came to Verlys from VSL at the same time when d'Avesn was at Verlys. I have had two examples of the bowl, one pink glass and the other in dark smoky-grey, both of which carried the P. DAVESN signature but with also "BELGIQUE" both marks in moulded relief. I have quite a collection of d'Avesn, none of which carry the Belgique mark. I never established if d'Avesn produced the bowls whilst at Verlys for VSL, or at the end/after his time with them, however although the smoky-grey glass was as is the Verlys 'Gris' glass colour-type, the pink glass was unlike any colour that I know of produced at/by Verlys. The bowl, is very deeply moulded, heavy and strikingly similar to his vase pattern of the same name for R Lalique.
marcus:
Modern Hoffman - what I meant was, modern-day Hoffman malachite, being 'passed-off' as period, which I automatically discard... There are also folks that seem to dismiss modern-day Czech items & Red-Ashay copies, particularly their car mascots for example, however I don't personally, as why shouldn't they produce them? After all, Lalique still produces designs by their Master! As so do many other factories, and rightfully so too in my opinion. Desna, has won many awards for their mascots, and even their Victoire example (which is practically identical to Lalique, though are most usually frosted) was voted for an award by Lalique themselves. I know which of each I'd rather have, but then again a modern-day examples are a fraction of the cost.
Anne Tique:
--- Quote from: marcus on September 27, 2017, 09:06:11 PM ---Anne Tique - The only one that I know of (though I would assume that their could probably be others too???) is a 10" (approx.) "Tourbillons' pattern bowl. It's a darn shame, 'coz I lost the link on my old PC about one of the owners of Verlys, who at the time was 'in' with those at VSL (and/or) came to Verlys from VSL at the same time when d'Avesn was at Verlys. I have had two examples of the bowl, one pink glass and the other in dark smoky-grey, both of which carried the P. DAVESN signature but with also "BELGIQUE" both marks in moulded relief. I have quite a collection of d'Avesn, none of which carry the Belgique mark. I never established if d'Avesn produced the bowls whilst at Verlys for VSL, or at the end/after his time with them, however although the smoky-grey glass was as is the Verlys 'Gris' glass colour-type, the pink glass was unlike any colour that I know of produced at/by Verlys. The bowl, is very deeply moulded, heavy and strikingly similar to his vase pattern of the same name for R Lalique.
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Are you sure it's VSL you're talking about? I haven't come in any of my books on VSL across d'Avesn. The only grey I can think of was used on the Mimosa vase, but the 'tourbillons' or curls, are much smaller. The Rosette bowl has larger ones, but wasn't available in grey and VSL never signed just Belgique. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to talk you out of the idea, but nowhere d'Avesn's mentioned in the history of VSL, I'm just trying to understand it because it's new to me. Have you got any images? What could be a possibility, now I'm thinking of it ... the Luxval range was set up by Charles Graffart and René Delvenne....d'Avesn/Delvenne ...Delvenne/d'Avesn ... if you say the names, just two letters are different ... [delvèn//davèn] ...see what I mean?
Anne Tique:
Was it this one?
Mosquito:
Don't know whether this is the one Marcus is referring to, but the two handled bowl shown as no. 21 in the 1935 Luxval catalogue is very similar to a Verlys pattern.
http://glas-musterbuch.de/uploads/tx_extendedshop/16_02.jpg
http://brocante-lestrouvaillesdecaroline.com/fr/1046-vasque.html
Regarding grey glass from VSL, I had a Luxval 'Myriam' jardiniere which looked grey in some lights, but showed a greenish tint when backlit.
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