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Author Topic: Miniature wavy rim vase - Whitefriars ? ID help please  (Read 2623 times)

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Offline Scott13

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Miniature wavy rim vase - Whitefriars ? ID help please
« on: January 07, 2017, 02:11:45 PM »

Hi,
I thought of WF on the strength of its colour ( which looks like Sea Green to me ) and polished out pontil mark.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to find it in any of their online catalogues - so I'm at a bit of a loss.

It really is quite light and delicate - small but perfectly formed would be an apt description   ::)

I've compared it with a Sowerby Venetian but this one is altogether lighter.

H- 4 cm ( 1.5 in)
W- 6 cm ( 2.5 in)
Weight- 80 gm

Any help really appreciated  :)

Scott




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Re: Miniature wavy rim vase - Whitefriars ? ID help please
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2017, 06:00:01 PM »
Stuart maybe ?

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Re: Miniature wavy rim vase - Whitefriars ? ID help please
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2017, 07:40:24 AM »

Hi Keith,
I tried Stuart but with no success. Nice glass though.
Despite all my searching I keep coming back to WF - principally because of its perfectly polished pontil mark and its colour; which I'm convinced is Sea Green.
I can make a comparison with my recently acquired WF wave ribbed vase ,which is in SG ( my last post ) -  their colours do look similar.
This comeing from someone who isn't good with colours  ;D
Perhaps it's a one off  :o
Thanks

Scott


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Re: Miniature wavy rim vase - Whitefriars ? ID help please
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2017, 03:39:26 PM »
I'd agree with Keith that this one does have a Stuarty sort of look   ...   see the attached.              My general thoughts are that this little bowl could be from a number of makers  -  frilly rims plus some optic moulding like this have been quite common at times, and as a rather uneducated thought I'd be inclined to think that if it can't be found in the on-line W/Fs catalogues then good chance it wasn't theirs.

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Re: Miniature wavy rim vase - Whitefriars ? ID help please
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2017, 06:11:47 PM »

Hi Paul,
Of course one could argue that its colour ( Sea Green ) provides it with an identity............ ;)
Unless of course there were other glassmakers at the time using exactly the same colour; and this is something we'll probably never know  :)

Scott

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Re: Miniature wavy rim vase - Whitefriars ? ID help please
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2017, 11:15:20 PM »
Hello,

Powell, Richardson, Webb and Stuart (and possibly Walsh Walsh and Webb Corbett) all used versions of dark green. This small bowl/vase is not Sea Green, but rather a dark green. Compare known Sea-Green by Whitefriars/Powell with this and you instantly see the difference.

I believe you will find a similar, wrythen, example by Thomas Webb within an article written by Lesley Jackson in the Glass Association Journal No5, 1997, where she uses a copy of an advert from The Pottery Gazette as an illustration.

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Re: Miniature wavy rim vase - Whitefriars ? ID help please
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2017, 11:32:04 PM »
It does kind of have the look of this Webb's Iris in terms of shape doesn't it?
That is also quite fine in terms of heft.
http://www.decorative-antiques.co.uk/displayImage.asp?GID=15816&key=Webb%27s%20IRIS%20Glass%20Vase

Nigel, did Stevens and Williams use a dark green with a greyish hue?
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Re: Miniature wavy rim vase - Whitefriars ? ID help please
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2017, 11:43:17 PM »
Hi Michelle,

Yes, I guess you could say a grey tint to the green in 1930's S&W green.

Cheers, Nigel

PS. Good photo link for the shape ;) :)

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Re: Miniature wavy rim vase - Whitefriars ? ID help please
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2017, 08:38:50 AM »

Hi Nigel,
I've attached pics of my posy vase next to my 25.5 cm Whitefriars 'Wave Ribbed' vase  - which incidentally has had its identity confirmed ( my previous post).

Always open minded.
Thanks for the info you provided  :)

Scott

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2017, 12:44:14 PM »

Hi, three more pics as we've got some daylight now :)

Scott


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