Topic: Lidded Boxes Signed "B" - Baccarat??

[antonizz]

Hey everybody,

I just received these 2 glass lidded boxes today.

I'm not sure if it's pressed glass or crystal.

But they're both signed with a "B" on the bottom.
The reason I bought these boxes....

A couple of months ago I saw the exact same round box,
also signed with a "B", sold as Baccarat.
(of course I can't find it now)

I started buying glass and antiques etc. for maybe 6/7 months,
so I'm not really experienced.

I hope somebody can tell me how old these boxes are and if they
are indeed baccarat, or maybe not.

Thanks in advance!
R.Antonis

[flying free]

hope this helps

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/decorative-objects/boxes/decorative-boxes/signed-baccarat-crystal-table-box/id-f_4059573/?utm_content=test&currency=gbp&gclid=CNOCi6ny29ECFVTNGwod0C8IrA

I'm sorry I don't know anything about this type of crystal but perhaps someone else will be along who can.

m

[antonizz]

@flying free,

Thank you very much. This could as well be the one I saw.
Thought it was the round box, but I noticed that.. or I believe that
most of the older boxes are having a gold mount, or ormolu mount.

Maybe that means mines are 'newer'.
But what is new?

Whether it's pressed glass or crystal, I wouldn't know.
Somebody from a glass shop in my town told me a couple months before,
that, for the value, it doesnt really make any difference whether if it's pressed or crystal.

Never really believed that though.

Anyway thanks for your time, and let's hope somebody knows ...

Also have 2 "crystal" vases coming in in 2 days.
Maybe I'll link it to this post, if anybody's interested.


R.Antonis

[Anne Tique]

I don't think I've seen this mark before, had a quick look in a couple of books but couldn't find it either... but then, there's always something new to discover, maybe somebody else has seen this mark before.

Baccarat did use this cut design, not called 'Russe' as in the earlier link but called 'Pierreries', but the round shaped cabochons are not 'in formation' and in straight lines. The square cabochons are in formation, but on your pieces they're round.

I thought something from this period would have been signed like shown in the images shown in the link

http://www.ebay.fr/itm/122324246107?rmvSB=true

[flying free]

There is another one for sale here.
I don't know whether it is marked.
But is does have the intermittent pattern.
http://www.alexiaamatoantiques.com/en-GB/french-bohemian-caskets/antique-baccarat-crystal-glass-casket-box/prod_10556#.WIfsGVWLTIU

Appears to be this one
https://www.rubylane.com/item/513876-687/Antique-Turquoise-Baccarat-Crystal-Glass-Casket
m

[antonizz]

Yes, the one you just linked has the same "B".

In the meantime, I have found 2 on liveauctioneers.
These two boxes are exactly the same.
(Haven't measured them yet)

1)  https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/17556909_baccarat-glass-box

2)  https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/14367310_baccarat-crystal-box-signed-b

Pretty sure now, that I made a good deal.
I paid (can I say that??)  $18,00 for the pair.
 


I think I'll clean them up and "digitally bring them" to liveauctioneers.

FlyingFree, thank you very much for your help!!
I know you helped me before on some other topics.
If you can send private messages here, please send me your e-mail adress.
When, and if I've sold them in a few weeks/months, I'll give you a small percentage.

R.Antonis

[antonizz]

By the way..
One link says it's crystal,
and the other says it's pressed glass.

Maybe the glasshop-owner was right about the difference in value??

[flying free]

Thank you for your kind thought but that is not necessary

I think you still have to work out if they are definitely Baccarat, that the impressed B mark is a correct mark for Baccarat if you see what I mean?

m

[antonizz]

Thank you. If you change your mind for whatever reason, you know where to find me.

About the "B"-mark...  I'll just photograph it and mail it to them.
I assume they should know.

[flying free]

   they will know.  It is worth trying and hoping that they respond to you.
They are lovely boxes.

m