Topic: Ząbkowice or Rona Crystal (Lednicke Rovne)? Pressed glass 'beetle' platter

[Anik R]

Hello,

I've got a pressed glass platter which somewhat resembles a beetle.  When I bought it, I was sure it was Polish, produced by Ząbkowice in the early XX century.  Wanting to know more, I started searching and found an article on the pressglas-korrespondenz.de website which shows it was also produced by Rona Crystal (Lednicke Rovne).   The pattern book drawings seem to vary slightly, and I'm now unsure which version I have.

The article with the catalogued 'beetles' can be found here:  Scroll down to page 3.

Since I am in Poland, and bought the platter from a local seller, I would think it's more likely Polish.  However, my piece only seems to have 5 ribs (which I suppose makes it more like the Lednicke one).   

Help please.

Thank you,
Anik

[Paul S.]

it's a startling piece, and very attractive  -  the art nouveau design screams out.        My linguistic skills are zero, so cannot help at all with text, but purely from a comparative point of view of the appearance of both, the design on this one does look to agree closely with the Lednicke pattern, rather than Zabkowice design.
Unsure of what you mean by 'ribs'  -  presumably the curved wavy lines??

just to repeat it's a desirable piece of glass, and a very good find.

[Anik R]

Hi Paul,

Thank you for taking the time to comment.  By 'ribs' I meant the curves on the main part.   

Anik

[chopin-liszt]

I reckon it's much more like the Rona one, Anik - it's not just the number of ribs, but the shape of the curved "other ribs", the ones that stand proud over the straight lines,.

They're all curved on the Rona one, but seem to have a double angle in the Zabkowice one.

It is beetle-y isn't it? or horseshoe crab-y.

[Anik R]

Hi Sue!

I also think it's more like the Rona one.   I forgot to give the measurements:
Length:  28cm
Width:  23.5cm
Height:  4cm
Weight: 1066g

Anik x

[Paul S.]

I could be wrong but the catalogue page appears not to give dimensions, so rather unhelpful there  -   yes Anik, it was those curved lines I assumed were the ribs.
I think Sue's suggestion of the Horseshoe Crab likeness is very good.            Have you looked at Pamela's encyclopedic catalogues to see if your piece is shown there??

[chopin-liszt]

I've also noticed the "blobs" at the "head end" of the stripes up the middle are different shapes.
The Rona one has round blobs, the other has eliptical ones.
And yours are round.

[Anik R]

Thank you Paul and Sue,

I've looked at Pamela's site, and at the Zabkowice catalogues, but no size is provided.  In the Zabkowice catalogues, I think the platter is actually a tray...  There is a carafe and glasses in the same pattern.  The Rona piece in the link above has a size of 25cm which is a few centimeters smaller than mine.

Anik

[Anik R]

I found the sizes for the Ząbkowice ones:  130mm and 250mm  Scroll down to page 23 here.   The Rona one is also 250mm.

Thank you,
Anik

[Anne]

I'm agreeing with the consensus on Rona.