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Author Topic: Carafe with red & white filigree spiral, maker Boston & Sandwich?  (Read 3185 times)

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Carafe with red & white filigree spiral, maker Boston & Sandwich?
« on: September 22, 2017, 03:20:53 PM »
When I bought this carafe I had that voice whispering in my ear, that wishful thinking fantasy sing song we are all familiar with, "Clichy" it said...

It is 18cm tall - a little over 7 inches with a wide shallow polished pontil mark, beautifully made it reeks of quality. After a bit of nosing around I decided Clichy really was but a fantasy.
 
Then I ran into this blog: http://www.peachridgeglass.com/2014/06/my-visit-to-the-sandwich-glass-museum/

which contains this photo of one of the display cases at the Sandwich Glass Museum: http://www.peachridgeglass.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Sandwich-11-a.jpg

So far this is the only example of filigree I have found which are white/colour/white so of course now my fantasy over the shoulder voice keeps whispering "Boston and Sandwich". All thoughts re the maker of the carafe are most welcome...

John

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Re: Carafe with red & white filigree spiral, maker?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2017, 09:14:37 PM »
Hello John I got one of these from eBay a couple of months ago in blue I thought the lip would have been where a glass would of sat , very similar to the American glass you found in the link, mine has a lot of base wear and a polished pontil.
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Re: Carafe with red & white filigree spiral, maker Boston & Sandwich?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2017, 11:58:21 AM »
Me too, an up and over carafe or tumble up carafe with that wide ring for a glass to rest on.

Do you have a photo of yours Chris?

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Re: Carafe with red & white filigree spiral, maker Boston & Sandwich?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2017, 12:00:32 PM »
I will put one on later it looks identical to the blue ones in the link.
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Re: Carafe with red & white filigree spiral, maker Boston & Sandwich?
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2017, 05:10:07 PM »
Pic's of the carafe and what i think maybe a French perfume about 1890 ish.

The carafe is 7 inches in height and the bottle 3 inches in height.
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Re: Carafe with red & white filigree spiral, maker Boston & Sandwich?
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2017, 10:13:21 AM »
Thanks Chris, two cropping up in relatively quick succession has me wondering...

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Re: Carafe with red & white filigree spiral, maker Boston & Sandwich?
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2017, 10:44:24 AM »
The one I have has had a hard life it was Waterstained and the base has a lot of wear (although 2 minutes on sandpaper could produce 200 years of foot wear), the only thing I have seen recently similar is a lot of Polish glass with similar single blue stripes no white normally large vases or jugs at least 12 inches in height.

I'm guessing if it were old it was not made in great numbers though.

Could just be coincidence I see a lot of Victorian glass over and over again.

I found a blue Victorian vase in Torquay earlier this month then found another the same when I was sorting through my own stuff and there is also one in Victorian decorative glass plus I have sold two over the years .

The cranberry sugar and creamer sets  with white spiral rims are everywhere
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Re: Carafe with red & white filigree spiral, maker Boston & Sandwich?
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2017, 09:11:23 PM »
Glassobsessed - I can see as to why your initial thoughts were Clichy! However,  it sure appears to be lovely piece. It also got me wondering (once I also looked at the blue example) if, at any point, either of them had stoppers? Just a guess, but if not, then perhaps they were produced as bud vases or just as decorative items? 

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Re: Carafe with red & white filigree spiral, maker Boston & Sandwich?
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2017, 09:16:30 PM »
They are typically shaped bedside water carafes they do not have stoppers just a glass upside down that sits on the body .
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Re: Carafe with red & white filigree spiral, maker Boston & Sandwich?
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2017, 08:42:05 AM »
No evidence of any stopper, the shape of the neck would not be ideal and they are not ground for one to fit either. Interesting that yours has plenty of wear Chris, mine has some but it is confined to a thin ring around the edge of the base.

The shape would be practical for a carafe, the bulbous base making it harder to knock over that something taller.

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