Topic: Possible 19th century Clichy Paperweight ID please ?

[stubbsywubsy]

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Hello, I have this weight which is a concentric type with polish clear pontil possibly Clichy? Any information would be much appreciated.

Thank you in advance
Steve

[tropdevin]

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This is not from one of the major factories - it might be Belgian or French.

Alan

[stubbsywubsy]

Thank you everyone

Alan do you think St Mande is a possibility ?

kind regards Steven

[tropdevin]

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 Hi Steven.  Not impossible for it to be St M, but I had not suggested it as I do not recognise the cane style as their work.  The glass of St M is usually fairly grey, and the paperweight tend to be noticeably curved under towards the base, often with a shallow circumferential groove from manufacture about 1/3 way up from the base.

Don French collects St M and Grenelle, and has posted a lot of images on his website: https://sites.google.com/site/antiquepaperweights/saint-mande-paperweights

Alan

[stubbsywubsy]

Thank you Alan

The base does have a noticeable Curve to the base which is why i first thought Clichy and Secondly St M. the photo provided make the base look flat (my apologies) , But the Glass looks to be the Same in colour to most Clichy and Baccarat that i have had before and i would not say any more "grey"

thank you for the Link i must admit the red and Blue canes look similar to some St M. but i would Say mine is probably Neater
Kind regards Steven

[w8happiness]

Hi Steve,

some of the canes remind of New England Glass Company,
so an American source around 1850 should not be ruled out
completely; they made a number of different grounds, pls see
the attached picture- very similar to late Bohemian/Silesian
but with a confirmed ID to the NEGC works (canes matched,
heavy lead crystal, deep hollow  pontil area).

best wishes, ejm