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Author Topic: Scandinavian Ryd goblet or other ?  (Read 1678 times)

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Offline Scott13

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Scandinavian Ryd goblet or other ?
« on: May 27, 2018, 06:29:08 AM »

Hi,
I was wondering whether this could be a Ryd goblet - its colour matches some of the other R pieces
I’ve seen on ‘ Images ‘.

Cut and polished rim.
Quite a bit of base wear.
Its base bit is heavy(ish) , although it’s hollow.

Ht. 16.5cm ( 6.5”)
Wt  400gm

Help appreciated—thanks for looking.

Scott

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Re: Scandinavian Ryd goblet or other ?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2018, 05:57:25 PM »

Hi,
My photo makes it look as if there’s a join between the bowl and the stem.
A trick of the light I’m afraid— I’m sure all of you would have gathered that  - but just in case.......... :)

Scott

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Re: Scandinavian Ryd goblet or other ?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2018, 06:57:19 PM »
Hi Scott,  I believe your goblet might be Polish, designed by Zbigniew Horbowy.  :)

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Re: Scandinavian Ryd goblet or other ?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2018, 05:54:27 AM »

Hi,
I’d love to think it was and I can see the similarities, but I’m not sure whether the base (bottoms)
are the same.
What do you think?

There’s a labelled Ryd ( Aseptic on the side) with a similar colour ( ruby red ? ) which looks a bit like
mine, although it’s not a goblet and I can’t see the bottom of its base.

http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/scandinavian_glass/ryds_glass/rydsglass_home.html

I did find a labelled Ryd online with a similar sort of base - but of course I can’t find it now -
it’s vanished !  :)

Scott

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Re: Scandinavian Ryd goblet or other ?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2018, 08:14:25 AM »
Hello Scott,

Normaly I think the RYD vases are white inside.
If it is Swedish I think more that Monica Bratt for Reijmyre is closer.
But I don't find this shape at all.
Maybe you have more luck...:)
It is her colors too.

Regards
Jonas

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Re: Scandinavian Ryd goblet or other ?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2018, 04:14:33 PM »

Hi Anik and Jonas,
Many thanks for your helpful input, it was really appreciated.
If I find an exact match I’ll let you know!  :)

Scott

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Re: Scandinavian Ryd goblet or other ?
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2018, 04:57:50 AM »
Hi Scott,
I think I was mistaken when I said it might be Horbowy...  I was looking at the Banas book on Horbowy, and though there is a goblet (made at INCO) which looks very much like yours, the rim isn't cut. 
I guess your mystery continues,
Anik :)

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Re: Scandinavian Ryd goblet or other ?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2018, 06:42:31 AM »

Hi Anik,
Thanks so much for the update - just when I thought that I might be onto a winner !!  ;)
Having seen his work I can see why he’s internationally acclaimed.
 :)

Scott




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Re: Scandinavian Ryd goblet or other ?
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2018, 11:58:09 AM »
 :)
I had to run to the other room to find my fabby Horbowy to see how the bottom looks, exactly. My guts did the "Horbowy lurch" when I saw the goblet too, Anik. ;)

The base is marvered very flat, with a broken pontil mark which stands proud of the flat base, but the flat part has those same pinprick marks in it, as this goblet has.
(pic attached)

Comparing the red of my vase in reality and the goblet image on the screen, they are not the same colour, the goblet is more orange, but the shading of the colour is consistent.

I don't know enough about Horbowy to say whether this goblet is his or not, though.
His work is not easy to find. I know. I'm searching for it, but cannot find what I'm looking for.  ;D
Cheers, Sue M. (she/her)

Earth without art is just eh.

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Re: Scandinavian Ryd goblet or other ?
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2018, 06:02:22 PM »
Funny thing about Horbowy ...  there doesn't seem to be a uniform finish to the bases of his pieces.  I've had pieces with a rough pontil mark (like in Sue's piece), with a flat base, with a flat polished base, or with a polished round indent.  :)

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