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Offline Fendletruck

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Glass Tray with Light Green and Pink coloration of Flowers
« on: November 12, 2018, 07:41:22 PM »
As a wedding gift, my wife received a round glass cake tray, and a rectangular glass tray that matched it.

We unfortunately used the rectangular tray at a potluck, and it was stolen....

It was important to my wife, and I'd love to replace it, but I have never seen a one like it before.

We've been married for 5 years, but I don't have a clue how old the tray was.
We aren't even completely sure who we received it from.

I have the larger round tray (which is about 15" diameter) so I hoped to find manufacturer information on it somewhere.
No luck, no info at all. Nothing stamped, no country of origin, no sticker.

I put a napkin behind it for the attached picture because the coloration is very faint, quite difficult to see.
The tray was roughly 15" long and 7" wide, but those dimensions are approximate.

It's possible that this is just a mundane glass tray, maybe nothing too special, but I'm very interested in replacing it, and I don't mind paying several times it's worth to get it.

Thank you for your assistance.

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Re: Glass Tray with Light Green and Pink coloration of Flowers
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2018, 08:31:12 PM »
Oh I'm so sorry to hear that, aren't people sometimes miserable.

I think it's lovely trying to find a replacement and hopefully it can be identified.

Would it be possible to post an image of the whole item? Sometimes patterns are rare but shapes/models are not and perhaps this might help.


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Re: Glass Tray with Light Green and Pink coloration of Flowers
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2018, 08:34:36 PM »
Have a web search on "Walther" glas.
It's German, (hence the single s at the end of glass) and not terribly old. You should be able to find a replacement fairly easily.
I would suggest hunting around a bit, to find the best priced one.

Good luck. :)
It's horrible when you lose something that has come to mean something to you.
Cheers, Sue M. (she/her)

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Re: Glass Tray with Light Green and Pink coloration of Flowers
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2018, 09:07:46 PM »
Thank you for the recommendation on "Walther Glas", this looks a lot like the tray I'm looking for:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mikasa-Carmen-oblong-tray-platter-crystal-13x6-NIB-Walther-German-crystal-/173635405720

The "Carmen Stollenplatte".
Because the 14" round tray had the longer flowers on it, I thought it was probably the same flower pattern, but now I am seeing that smaller flower and I think I recall that is what it really looked like.

The only bump in the road is the fact that I can't find anything with the colored flowers, all the examples I see are just clear.

Is there a term for colored glass details?

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Re: Glass Tray with Light Green and Pink coloration of Flowers
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2018, 10:51:40 AM »
You might want to try Ebay.de for a Carmen platter but I was under the impression you were looking for the same pattern as the tray.

Just in case …

https://www.ebay.com/itm/192642670166

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Re: Glass Tray with Light Green and Pink coloration of Flowers
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2018, 11:00:13 AM »
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I'm not really sure. In older glass, sometimes a thin layer of coloured glass is put over a clear base then cut to reveal patterns, and that's called flashing.
Thick internal layers, sometimes with several colours, is a technique called sommerso.
But I don't know what you'd call the small patches of coloursoin the much more contemporary Walther.
It's a very thin layer, but just on some small sections of the piece. And it's different colours, not a single one.

The tray you found has a quite common rose sort of pattern on it, while the first piece you showed looked more like an iris. The rose pattern is often found with pink centres.
I'm really surprised that's all you found. I'm not being being rude about the glass, but I do see a lot of this in charity shops. And fancy complex patterns such as the iris-y you want to track down.

edited to add.

Anne Tique and I were cross-posting. I've just checked the link to the piece provided - it looks like a small spray of crocuses, and it looks as if it matches.
Well-sleuthed again, Anne. :)





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Re: Glass Tray with Light Green and Pink coloration of Flowers
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2018, 11:03:47 AM »
Crocus flowers?

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Re: Glass Tray with Light Green and Pink coloration of Flowers
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2018, 12:14:40 PM »
You might want to try Ebay.de for a Carmen platter but I was under the impression you were looking for the same pattern as the tray.

Just in case …

https://www.ebay.com/itm/192642670166

Your link looks exactly like our round tray, except that ours is completely round.

I'm sorry, the problem I'm having is that I didn't have any pictures of the tray, and when I looked at the large round tray I assumed the patterns must have been the same, because I thought they were matching pieces.

However, now I am second guessing this because of how familiar the other rose pattern platter is.

I am very new to this world, and I don't know the first thing about items like this.
I'm not much of an online shopper either, so I'm a little deficient at these sorts of things.

I guess I'll start checking charity shops.

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Re: Glass Tray with Light Green and Pink coloration of Flowers
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2018, 12:37:58 PM »
I suspect Walther glas is more likely to turn up in charity shops in Europe than in Canada.

Checking online auctions would be your best bet. There is etsy as well as the better known one. But you may find yourself forced to use certain specific payment methods you might not be happy about. There's a closed-shop corporate monopoly.

But it's entirely up to you which pattern you chose to buy to replace the bit you lost.

The roses only come with a pink tint or no colour at all. I've never seen a multicoloured one. They are far more common than the other flower patterns too.
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Re: Glass Tray with Light Green and Pink coloration of Flowers
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2018, 01:44:41 PM »
While in my local antiques centre this morning, looking for some handles for a chest of drawers I am restoring I spotted these three. The flower pattern looks different so not sure if they are what you are looking for.

John

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