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Offline Anne Tique

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Re: Unusual old Glass Item Hollow Stem????
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2018, 09:06:18 AM »
Thank you Peter for clearing that up. I've never had one and it's not on my list either, so never done any research but I've always known them, the ones without wick, as lace lamps as have so many people. Obviously a common mistake. Reading up on it I can see the difference.

After your post I wondered where the attribution lace lamp comes from for these smaller pieces.
I came across another french blog where, agreeing with your theory,  they also mentioned that as 'lace lamp', these pieces sell for a lot more, it's as simple as that and I can remember seeing one go on Ebay this year for something around €250, which I didn't understand at the time. 

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Re: Unusual old Glass Item Hollow Stem????
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2018, 09:37:51 AM »
Hi Anne,  I don't know were or when the attribution to lace makers lamps originated,possibly in some book or other a very long time ago and since then has been regurgitated without question, it is not impossible that lace makers used lamps such as these with reflection globes used to shine the light onto the lace making pillows but I know of no hard evidence,many open flame lamps were made in Europe as well as England and there is a thought that French glass makers from Lorraine may have introduced them to England in the late 17th century,maybe at that time the connection to France and lace making led to the attribution or possibly it was the Victorians who loved to put "labels" on everything which is were so many attributions of what many 18th c drinking glasses were made for originated, ie ratafia glasses glasses, mead glasses etc , with no historical evidence to support the "labels", so it's more than likely it is just another "old wifes tale " that has stuck and even today is repeated without question , why a lace maker ticket would attract a higher price i don't know as most knowledgeable buyers today are aware of this erroneous description though 250 eu would not be a lot for a nice example,from memory the highest price paid at auction for a six spout English lamp was £10,000 , some are very rare !!! below is a late 17th c French lamp.

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Peter.

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Re: Unusual old Glass Item Hollow Stem????
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2018, 09:59:05 AM »
It was just a plain, single one, nothing fancy and as far as I can remember, nothing specifically mentioned about age or whatever. Just the attribution lace lamp, in French, with measurements, a model similar to the one in this thread. Seeing it go for such an amount of money made me wonder why such a simple thing could sell for so much money. Obviously something was there that I was unable to see but  you need to be in a specific collectors market to understand it, I guess.

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Re: Unusual old Glass Item Hollow Stem????
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2018, 10:14:17 AM »
Hi,
             A quick search found this , the most accurate description I have seen so far,

https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/webdocs/lb_lamps.pdf

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