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Offline Ekimp

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Is this an IOW bowl?
« on: May 31, 2019, 01:53:30 PM »
Shame about the colour. Is this an Isle of Wight ‘Petit Fleur’ bowl? It looks a similar style to the one shown on the Isle of Wight Studio Glass website but is bigger. Also, there is very little wear so thought it was newer than the early 1980s.

http://iowstudioglass.wikidot.com/petitfleur

The diameter is about 175mm, it is just under 50mm tall and weighs 590g. The rim is almost 10mm thick, the glass narrows at the sides before becoming thick at the bottom with a kick up/bulge on the inside of the bowl at the bottom. Thanks.
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Re: Is this an IOW bowl?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2019, 02:29:51 PM »
A plain white background would make it a bit easier to see, but I think you're on the right lines.
i own the lollipop and the small bowl at the bottom in the link there, the blue and olive-y coloured one.
I don't know if they're supposed to be the same colour schemes, as the lollipop has white in it that my bowl doesn't. The white in the lollipop is not so "bitty" as it is in your bowl, it's much more "cloudy", but I have found some "bitty" bits towards the bottom.

My bowl has a sort of flat bottom. It's shiney, but not polished flat - it's all lumpy, so I think it's heat finished. The triangular black label is there and I can't see under it.

The lollipop has a square, clear plastic label.

Looking at my bowl, it does have that strange ring/air bubble in the middle of the bottom that yours has.

Small, early and very thick IoWSG bowls do tend to vary a lot in the execution of the construction. I would not really expect two to be exactly the same.
I think it was only later they prescribed exact dimensions, which they measured with calipers during the making.

There is a bulge in the middle of the bottom inside, over the bubble.
Overall, I think it probably is Petit Fleur.
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Re: Is this an IOW bowl?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2019, 05:29:25 PM »
I would agree with Petit Fleur, see the odd bowl from time to time and this is a particularly large example.

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Re: Is this an IOW bowl?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2019, 05:33:55 PM »
Thanks both, that’s good news. I thought someone might say the colour was wrong for the period (prefer the colours of your bowl Sue, swop? ;D) I’ll try some other photos on white, I really should make a light box etc. Thanks again.
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Re: Is this an IOW bowl?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2019, 05:43:49 PM »
Sorry, but I really do like the colours in mine and the colour your great big one is, is not permitted in our home.
Yours is about twice the size of mine, if not more.  ;D It is very unusual.
I've realised the dimensions are not on Anton's site.

The bowl (pin dish, really) is 3.5" in diameter, just under 1.5" tall and I'd say the glass is 1cm thick.
(We're in small territory, so I'm mixing metric and imperial.)
The lollipop is small too. 5.5" tall, 4.5" broad and 2.25" deep.
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Re: Is this an IOW bowl?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2019, 05:13:47 PM »
It was worth a try  :)  Unusual is good and partly compensates for pink....actually, I’m sure in the appropriate setting it could look very nice....

I see your dimensions are similar to the other one on the link website (I’m ok with a mix of units as long as no one starts using hands or cubits). Do you know how heavy it is? I wondered if they used the same weight of glass but spread mine out more.
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Re: Is this an IOW bowl?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2019, 05:27:39 PM »
10.5 ounces. (which involved my ancient cast iron weights -  ;D I can't get more accurate than that. I don't use metric for cooking, only in labs.)
They can't "weigh out" a gob of hot glass - they gather some up and cut about the right amount off. They learn to know pretty much the right size to go for.
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Re: Is this an IOW bowl?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2019, 06:02:40 PM »
Ok, thanks. About half then.
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Re: Is this an IOW bowl?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2019, 12:21:06 PM »
Yesterday I got another even bigger example!

They both have the same profile and type of base and pontil scar, there is more wear on the bigger one. This also has a much larger bubble in the centre but no random small bubbles and the flower shape is in four quadrants but without the multitude of spokes. The two bowls look like the evolution of a design. The new one is about 200mm diameter, 60mm high and weighs almost 800 grams. They came from different brands of charity shop about 20 miles and two weeks apart. Any thoughts?

I tried the photos on white and for some reason the resizing rotated all images.
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Re: Is this an IOW bowl?
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2019, 02:10:30 PM »
These were definitely made while IoWSG was experimenting a lot and new designs were evolving dramatically. They needed to find new designs to establish themselves. :)
Their motto was; "Our best work will be done tomorrow." They continued to develop new designs, all the time.
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