Topic: Art Deco vase in "Moser style", facetted (12 sides), heavy, blue-grey, unmarked

[michajoli]

i just have to smile because a few seconds ago i had the idea that this pinterest site could be from you :-)

[Anne Tique]

And right you were 

[chopin-liszt]

Ok, I was looking for something else, but this beauty just popped up.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Midcentury-Modern-Bohm-Blue-Green-Teal-Crystal-Glass-Vase-Signed-BOHM-Kristal/312555131527?hash=item48c5bcd287:g:xqIAAOSw44BYIN3p

[Anne Tique]

Having had another look at the vase in the Catawiki link, I'm not sure about its signature, even though I believe a piece should never be judged on just that. I have once come across an engraved signature before, written as in the cameo style from +/- 1905 but can't remember the piece.

 I have never seen a signature 'V st L', nor do I have any examples of it. Besides that, at VSL a diamond point signature wasn't used until the 40ies and this piece is earlier than that.

[michajoli]

Having had another look at the vase in the Catawiki link, I'm not sure about its signature, even though I believe a piece should never be judged on just that. I have once come across an engraved signature before, written as in the cameo style from +/- 1905 but can't remember the piece.

 I have never seen a signature 'V st L', nor do I have any examples of it. Besides that, at VSL a diamond point signature wasn't used until the 40ies and this piece is earlier than that.

Hi Anne!
I understand, thank you! So the search goes on ...
Regards
Micha

[michajoli]

Ok, I was looking for something else, but this beauty just popped up.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Midcentury-Modern-Bohm-Blue-Green-Teal-Crystal-Glass-Vase-Signed-BOHM-Kristal/312555131527?hash=item48c5bcd287:g:xqIAAOSw44BYIN3p

Hi Sue!
Thank you, very interesting! Having read Annes latest posting (concerning possible fake signatures) i think that this "Böhm. Kristal" could be a faked (and much later than production date added) signature. I guess Böhm. is meant as an abbreviation of böhmisch (bohemian).
Regards
Micha

[chopin-liszt]

I didn't check all the images. Just posted the link when I found it, then went back to searching for what I was looking for.
The mark doesn't look "right" does it? Why cut and polish something so beautifully, then add a rough, unsophisticated mark like that?
But the vase looks related.

[michajoli]

...  then add a rough, unsophisticated mark like that?

... that's why i think it could be faked by someone who thought he could ask for more money when selling it if it has a signature ...

[Anne Tique]

I'm not sure if it is a fake signature (the Böhm one) but correct me if I'm wrong, it's wheel cut right? I would have thought a fake signature would have been done with a Dremel. Daum for instance signed like this in the 20/30ies.

[michajoli]

Would be interesting to find out if other glass vases can be found online with this "Böhm.Kristal" signature. Or even better if it is not a fake signature, to find out the maker :-)